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Old April 1st, 2008, 06:02 PM   #41
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I was trying to demonstrate the idea that the more time goes by, we will probably have less and less creationist scientists. Darwin is still relevant because what he came up with is a scientific theory. Do we still look to alchemists as credible sources? How about flat earthers?
I was trying to demonstrate the fact that the scientific community has yet to produce tangible proof to the therory of evolution, and the fact that scientists disagree on that therory. I didn't use any creationists or religious backed information. I think that at this point in time Darwins original theory has already been dismissed by the scientific community and the "New Scientists" are actually persuing reserch in a different direction. It's much like Newtons therory of gravity, later it was Einstiens therory that was different regarding gravity but it didn't make apples float in the air. The thing that is hard to digest is when science is wrong the evolutionists don't want to admit something was incorrect and move on to new evidence. People of this day and age want proof they can see, the therory of evolution dosen't have that yet.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 06:02 PM   #42
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Here, I'll help you get back on topic...

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Old April 1st, 2008, 06:07 PM   #43
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YES! this is great news.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 06:09 PM   #44
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Nice job of hijacking your own thread. What does a a set of nutjob set of parents who let their child die because their sitting around praying rather than seeking medical attention have to do with evolution?
Mike was trying to show that if evolution had any substance then the girl wouldn't have died because she would have evolved to a point that she wouldn't have gotten sick. A natural selection thing something Darwin woukd have posted.
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it's my thread and i'll hijack it if I want to, hijack it if I want to. You would hi-jack it too if it happened to you...
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YES! this is great news.
Great news. Especially when it gets distorted to the point you get charged because you didn't choose the right medical procedure for your kid and one doctor says the treatment of the other doctor wasn't the right treatment and thats your fault.

Sure that sounds goofy but is it truly that far off of our current society?
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Great news. Especially when it gets distorted to the point you get charged because you didn't choose the right medical procedure for your kid and one doctor says the treatment of the other doctor wasn't the right treatment and thats your fault.

Sure that sounds goofy but is it truly that far off of our current society?
better that than being able to kill your children and get off on a religious technicality, like the Christian scientists have been doing.
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better that than being able to kill your children and get off on a religious technicality, like the Christian scientists have been doing.
What about abortion??? I'm shutting off my computer now so I don't have to post all those discusting abortion pictures.
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What about abortion??? I'm shutting off my computer now so I don't have to post all those discusting abortion pictures.
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What about abortion??? I'm shutting off my computer now so I don't have to post all those discusting abortion pictures.
please. please. please.
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here is a picture of a failed abortion.

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Mike was trying to show that if evolution had any substance then the girl wouldn't have died because she would have evolved to a point that she wouldn't have gotten sick. A natural selection thing something Darwin woukd have posted.

I Loled.


Can I clear things up in saying that Christian Scientology is not Christianity. It's a religion. But it's not Christianity. I totally agree that these people are just plain stupid to not seek medical attention. God can do amazing things, And the real question is would it have been in the news if she would have miraculously been healed? No.


Oh, and I believe in Darwins Original theory of Adaptation. It's when those Scientfic zealots that tried to explain how the world began by it is when I have a problem.

Like I said before, IF you can prove it too me, I'll believe it. In my opinion, the creation story has more evidence (The bible) then the multiple theories that the scientific comunity has on the begining of the universe. I my love favorite history book.
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Can I clear things up in saying that Christian Scientology is not Christianity. It's a religion. But it's not Christianity. I totally agree that these people are just plain stupid to not seek medical attention. God can do amazing things, And the real question is would it have been in the news if she would have miraculously been healed? No.


Oh, and I believe in Darwins Original theory of Adaptation. It's when those Scientfic zealots that tried to explain how the world began by it is when I have a problem.

Like I said before, IF you can prove it too me, I'll believe it. In my opinion, the creation story has more evidence (The bible) then the multiple theories that the scientific comunity has on the begining of the universe. I my love favorite history book.
you're confused...in more ways than one.

I'm talking about the Christian Scientists aka the Church of Christ, Scientist, NOT Scientology. This "Christian Scientology" I have never heard of, nor has google. And yes, the Christian Scientists are Christian, unless, you are denying all the sects of Christianity of your own as being "true christians" or something goofy like that.

Using the bible for evidence of creation. That's like me writing a book and quoting it to prove that I'm right. :tonka:
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you're confused...in more ways than one.

I'm talking about the Christian Scientists aka the Church of Christ, Scientist, NOT Scientology. This "Christian Scientology" I have never heard of, nor has google. And yes, the Christian Scientists are Christian, unless, you are denying all the sects of Christianity of your own as being "true christians" or something goofy like that.

Using the bible for evidence of creation. That's like me writing a book and quoting it to prove that I'm right. :tonka:

I, and many other Christians, don't consider Christian Scientists a main stream denomination. They don't have the same theology as main stream Christianity does. They claim to be but they do not believe in the same thing. Much like Mormons. They are also not considered a Christian Religion because of certain theology that is incorrect. Just because it has Christ or Jesus in the name does not make it an accepted Christian Denomination.

With your statement about the bible. IMO, The account of Creation in the bible is still more accurate. You believe that it was written solely by men and men alone. I believe that it's the inspired word of God. It's evidence enough for me. And at least it hasn't changed for over 2000 years.
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And at least it hasn't changed for over 2000 years.
I hate this argument with politicians and I think it's dumb now. Yup, unwavering, not a "flip flopper", doesn't change his/her mind even with new evidence or information available.
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God helps those who help themselves....
a folksy quote, said phrase doesn't exist in the bible. can't speak to whether it exists in the quran, the torah, or the back of the tv guide... it is actually attributed to Ben Franklin in poor richard's almanac.
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With your statement about the bible. IMO, The account of Creation in the bible is still more accurate. You believe that it was written solely by men and men alone. I believe that it's the inspired word of God. It's evidence enough for me. And at least it hasn't changed for over 2000 years.
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I'm 3 pages late to this thread. that being said, for those that claim to be non-theists, how do you put a value (if any) on human life. if there is nothing after as you assert, then everything here is pointless.

the one child that died will not significantly diminish this human species ability to thrive on the planet. nor will any of the "99% of wars attributed to religion" and/or mass genocides (the highest volume genocides by the way were non-religious in nature. e.g. Stalin-1980's Russia, various ethnic "cleansings" etc.).

thus, in the big picture there has been no "harm"...
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i think there must be two kind of people in this world, the kind who buy into the supernatural and those who see through it.
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I'm 3 pages late to this thread. that being said, for those that claim to be non-theists, how do you put a value (if any) on human life. if there is nothing after as you assert, then everything here is pointless.

the one child that died will not significantly diminish this human species ability to thrive on the planet. nor will any of the "99% of wars attributed to religion" and/or mass genocides (the highest volume genocides by the way were non-religious in nature. e.g. Stalin-1980's Russia, various ethnic "cleansings" etc.).

thus, in the big picture there has been no "harm"...
I don't know what is after life, probably just dirt...

what does that have to do with valuing life? If anything it would make life MORE valuable.
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