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Old March 30th, 2008, 12:09 PM   #1
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You only vote once. It is worth 1 vote. (at least it better be..)

Just because you have a different opinion does not mean the opposing opinion is wrong.

You are not going to change another persons view to see it as you do, Period. It's called life.

The amount of BS spewing from the political party's, the media, current elected officials, and the sheep that follow them are the fuel that makes it burn.

By adding a political "twist" to everything you do and say is true sign that you are a sheep and therefore pathetic.

If you think that "other side" has nothing good to offer then you are a communist.

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Old March 30th, 2008, 01:56 PM   #4
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You only vote once. It is worth 1 vote. (at least it better be..) Should be right but???

Just because you have a different opinion does not mean the opposing opinion is wrong. My opinion is if you hit yourself in the foot with a sledge hammer it will hurt, the opposing opinion IS WRONG, Point being depends on subject matter.

You are not going to change another persons view to see it as you do, Period. It's called life. Hit your foot with a sledge hammer, Opinions change.

The amount of BS spewing from the political party's, the media, current elected officials, and the sheep that follow them are the fuel that makes it burn. Burning all that bullshit for fuel causes greenhouse gas.

By adding a political "twist" to everything you do and say is true sign that you are a sheep and therefore pathetic. Political twist (definition) being unrealistic and full of shit:

If you think that "other side" has nothing good to offer then you are a communist. We all must be communist sometimes.

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Old March 30th, 2008, 03:18 PM   #5
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Just because you have a different opinion does not mean the opposing opinion is wrong.
Disagree. Most of the time there IS a right and wrong. But some people have lost the ability to distinguish right from wrong. Others are afraid to identify wrong in public because it might not be the popular thing to do.

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The amount of BS spewing from the political party's, the media, current elected officials, and the sheep that follow them are the fuel that makes it burn.
IMO the truly free press is the greatest symbol of freedom and also the biggest threat to freedom in this country

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Disagree. Most of the time there IS a right and wrong. But some people have lost the ability to distinguish right from wrong. Others are afraid to identify wrong in public because it might not be the popular thing to do.



IMO the truly free press is the greatest symbol of freedom and also the biggest threat to freedom in this country

I very strongly disagree with you. I think that your "I'm right and anyone that disagrees with me is wrong" mentality is part of what it wrong with politics in this country. Sure, some things are either "right or wrong" but I think most things depend on the circumstances, so to make an absolute "right or wrong" judgment would require and absolute knowledge of all the circumstances, and I don't think anyone can ever have absolute knowledge.
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I think that one of our greatest rights in the right to disagree with and be openly critical of our government. To not exercise this right would be unAmerican.
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I very strongly disagree with you. I think that your "I'm right and anyone that disagrees with me is wrong" mentality is part of what it wrong with politics in this country. Sure, some things are either "right or wrong" but I think most things depend on the circumstances, so to make an absolute "right or wrong" judgment would require and absolute knowledge of all the circumstances, and I don't think anyone can ever have absolute knowledge.
It sounds like you think I just said that 'yes' is the answer to every question. 'Circumstances' are what allow you to make the judgment. Depending on the circumstances, there is a right and there is a wrong.

The problem with politics is there are not enough politicians who can tell the difference between right and wrong
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It sounds like you think I just said that 'yes' is the answer to every question.
No, not at all. I do think that if you're like most people I've known that think everything is "black and white" and everything is "right or wrong" you probably think you're right about everything and that anyone that disagrees with you is wrong.
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No, not at all. I do think that if you're like most people I've known that think everything is "black and white" and everything is "right or wrong" you probably think you're right about everything and that anyone that disagrees with you is wrong.
Thats kind of a stretch but whatever. I didn't say I had all the answers, but I think I have a pretty good grasp on right and wrong.
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Thats kind of a stretch but whatever. I didn't say I had all the answers, but I think I have a pretty good grasp on right and wrong.
You have a grasp of what YOU believe to be right and wrong. Child labor is wrong in the US. But, go to some third world country and look at it through their perspective and you will see nothing wrong with it. It's all about perspective. Perception is reality. Right and wrong is nothing more than agreed upon perspectives in a society.
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You have a grasp of what YOU believe to be right and wrong. Child labor is wrong in the US. But, go to some third world country and look at it through their perspective and you will see nothing wrong with it. It's all about perspective. Perception is reality. Right and wrong is nothing more than agreed upon perspectives in a society.
I understand what you are saying, but just because some society's accept it or consider it normal or necessary doesn't make it right. With enough perspective you could justify just about anything, which still wouldn't make it right.
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You are missing what I am saying. You are judging "right" through your own opinions and beliefs. What I accept as right probably doesn't match with what you say is right. Why is your right any better than my right? According to different perspectives, we are both right. You are imposing your beliefs on a society that thinks differently than you do.
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I understand what you are saying, but just because some society's accept it or consider it normal or necessary doesn't make it right. With enough perspective you could justify just about anything, which still wouldn't make it right.
Thank you for proving my point.
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Thank you for proving my point.
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right or wrong is EXACTLY politics.

It's not good vs. evil (which is actually religious) as most peoples "perspective" is.

You might believe that your opinion is "right" therefore "good"...but the two things have very little in common.

Can you be "wrong" and still "good"???

I can.

I do love this country...I just hate what it has become on many levels.
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right or wrong is EXACTLY politics.
Sure seems like it these days, but I used to think "politics" meant finding a compromise between opposing view points.
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Sure seems like it these days, but I used to think "politics" meant finding a compromise between opposing view points.
When was politics ever about compromise? Are you saying 50 years ago it was about shaking hands and happy mediums? Ever hear anything about the 1960s? 1860s perhaps? I hear politics got pretty serious back then.
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