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Old March 27th, 2008, 06:06 PM   #1
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I was all set on getting a Hobart Handler but after talking to a few experienced welders and a few non experienced (salesmen :tonka:) I am a wee bit torn between the Handler 210 and the Ironman 210.

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...6866_200336866

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The welder will be used for suspension and body welding along with aluminum tree stands and what not. Thoughts?
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I'd go for the Ironman if you can afford it.
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I don't know anything about Hobart welders... but this may help you.

http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/tls/616177524.html
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I don't know anything about Hobart welders... but this may help you.

http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/tls/616177524.html
What MIG's do you use at JCR?
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Old March 27th, 2008, 11:09 PM   #6
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i have the ironman and i love it it welds great and is mega easy to use and being that it is its own cart you wont have that expense as you will need some way to carry around your tank if you plan on welding with anything but flux cored wire.....
i picked mine up at tractor suply for the same price..well i believe it was just under that..

oh and with the larger welder you will be able to use a larger spool of wire thus saveing you the hassel of running to the welding shop as much to get wire...
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I like my millermatic dvi I got it brand new off ebay for a great price.
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I like Miller welders. I have a Millematic 130 that does a good job on smaller stuff. I use it on exhaust and other thin stuff. I use .023 wire in that unit so it is smooth and easy to control. I have a Snap On Muscle Mig 250 I use on the big stuff. I use .035 wire in this unit and have found it to be a very capable machine. The Snap On welder is somewhat sensitive to wire speed but once dialed in makes for some really nice welds. This unit also has a Tig and spool gun attachment. The Tig can't be used on aluminum ( I didn't know that when I bought that part) but the spool gun does a great job for aluminum, especially cast.
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What MIG's do you use at JCR?
We have 1 Lincoln 215 and 2 255's.

I would recommend the 215 as the best bargin. You can sometimes find them for ~$1400 if your local supply will match online prices.

Benefits over the Ironman would be:
15' welding lead as opposed to 10'
The 215 has an all metal drive assembly (unsure on the Ironman)
At 170 amps the 215 has a 70% duty cycle... The Ironman is 40% at 150amps.

I don't know how much you plan on using it at once, so duty cycle may not be a concern?

Also check cost of consumables for each model.
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Love my Lincoln powermig 210, duty cycle is what sets them apart
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miller 212 and love it.
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We have 1 Lincoln 215 and 2 255's.

I would recommend the 215 as the best bargin. You can sometimes find them for ~$1400 if your local supply will match online prices.

Benefits over the Ironman would be:
15' welding lead as opposed to 10'
The 215 has an all metal drive assembly (unsure on the Ironman)
At 170 amps the 215 has a 70% duty cycle... The Ironman is 40% at 150amps.

I don't know how much you plan on using it at once, so duty cycle may not be a concern?

Also check cost of consumables for each model.

Thanks for the info, I got to talk more to my welding buddy and we agreed on the Ironman and the duty cycle would not be an issue.

I am dealing with the guy on craiglist right now, but I also have a friend that works at TSC for the discount
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We have 1 Lincoln 215 and 2 255's.

I would recommend the 215 as the best bargin. You can sometimes find them for ~$1400 if your local supply will match online prices.

Benefits over the Ironman would be:
15' welding lead as opposed to 10'
The 215 has an all metal drive assembly (unsure on the Ironman)
At 170 amps the 215 has a 70% duty cycle... The Ironman is 40% at 150amps.

I don't know how much you plan on using it at once, so duty cycle may not be a concern?

Also check cost of consumables for each model.

Real good infor here. I use Millermatic 210 at work (but it was stolen a few weeks ago) and a Millermatic 251 at the house. The Lincoln and Miller are about the same with features, can't go wrong with either but with a Hobart I real don't know much about them.
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Hobarts are low end Miller's.
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Hobarts work great...
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Make sure you have a metal drive assembly.
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My hat in the ring...

Get the best welder you can afford. Try to stay with Blue or Red machines. Get more welder then you think you need. Buy Used. Use craigshelper.com to search for used machines. If it's Red or Blue you will be able to get parts for it no matter how old the machine is. If you look around, you can find a mig with a bottle for about $1000.
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Get the best welder you can afford. Try to stay with Blue or Red machines. Get more welder then you think you need. Buy Used. Use craigshelper.com to search for used machines. If it's Red or Blue you will be able to get parts for it no matter how old the machine is. If you look around, you can find a mig with a bottle for about $1000.
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Get the best welder you can afford. Try to stay with Blue or Red machines. Get more welder then you think you need. Buy Used. Use craigshelper.com to search for used machines. If it's Red or Blue you will be able to get parts for it no matter how old the machine is. If you look around, you can find a mig with a bottle for about $1000.

Thanks, I am watching craiglist really close and trying to see if the local welding supply will match online pricing.
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If you don't mind driving:

These guys get all of our business and have always treated us WAY MORE then fair. They will make you a good deal on a machine, in fact I think they have a used Lincoln 255 there. Ask for Todd or Steve and Tell them Jcr sent you.

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