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Old March 27th, 2008, 07:03 AM   #1
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Default Pulstar plugs

Just wondering if anyone has heard of or used these plugs. I just saw them in Popular Science and though I would look them up. They better be damned good for $25 each.

http://www.pulstarpulseplugs.com/default.asp
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Old March 27th, 2008, 08:16 PM   #2
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Old March 27th, 2008, 08:25 PM   #3
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doubt they'd do anything really.

you'd need the necessary ignition system behind them to produce the 1 mil volts they claim can output. spark plugs themselves do not create voltage.
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Old March 27th, 2008, 08:58 PM   #4
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Probably just hype like about every other expensive ass plug out there....ie bosch +4, e3, etc.
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Old March 27th, 2008, 09:07 PM   #5
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If your current spark plug is properly burning all of the fuel in the cylinder a hotter spark will do nothing. And if it's a hotter spark you want increase your plug gap.
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Old March 27th, 2008, 09:09 PM   #6
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Just wondering if anyone has heard of or used these plugs. I just saw them in Popular Science and though I would look them up. They better be damned good for $25 each.

http://www.pulstarpulseplugs.com/default.asp

Ahhh, I remember the "SplitFire" spark plug rage. I know somebody that is a dyno tech for Champion. They test all the competetors plugs and the latest gee wiz stuff like those awwwwsome Tornado intake adapters.

Most likely the plugs are crap. From what I've talked to Mike (the dyno tech) about, indexing the plugs is your best bet. The traditional plug design still seems to be the best.

After looking at the plug I think its a load of crap. The maximum voltage that the ignition system can produce is ultimately limited by coil design. Modern high voltage system are pretty efficiant. The higher voltage aids in starting and some cold engine drivablity but thats were it ends. To enjoy any additional benefits from higher voltage ignitions you will need to increase compression ratio and octane rating.

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Ahhh, I remember the "SplitFire" spark plug rage. I know somebody that is a dyno tech for Champion. They test all the competetors plugs and the latest gee wiz stuff like those awwwwsome Tornado intake adapters.

Most likely the plugs are crap. From what I've talked to Mike (the dyno tech) about, indexing the plugs is your best bet. The traditional plug design still seems to be the best.

After looking at the plug I think its a load of crap. The maximum voltage that the ignition system can produce is ultimately limited by coil design. Modern high voltage system are pretty efficiant. The higher voltage aids in starting and some cold engine drivablity but thats were it ends. To enjoy any additional benefits from higher voltage ignitions you will need to increase compression ratio and octane rating.
Yup. You couldn't have hit the nail on the head any squarer.
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Thumbs up +4 MPG with Pulstar plugs

I installed a set in my 2000 Focus 2.0L SOHC on Thursday. 2 weeks ago, I drove from Oxford to Tawas City and back for the weekend and averaged 31.5 MPG, which is the best I have gotten in a long time.

After installing the Pulstar plug on Thursday, I headed up to Tawas City again this past weekend. I averaged 35.53 MPG, a gain of 4 MPG with the pulstar plugs.

I have owned this car for 2.5 years and the best MPG's I have ever gotten on it were 34.3, previous best of 33.5 and usually just around 31.5 on the highway.

It appears that the plugs DO work. The best place to buy them is at www.tunertools.com as they have the cheapest shipping (priority mail).

Just an FYI, before purchasing, I checked out some of the independant testing of the plugs, which showed improments of 1%-14% depending on vehicle tested.

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I'm not doubting you gained 4mpg, but I'm thinking that whether you used the snake oil plugs, or ngk's or whatever, you would've gained some mpg, simply by installing new plugs to replace your old ones that had some wear.

I don't buy into all the aftermarket bullshit that promises to do this or that. I avoid all of that stuff, with the exception of seafoam.
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I have been testing out various plugs in my Focus over the past 57,000 miles I have put on it. The previous plugs have about 15-20,000 miles on them, which are the E3 plugs ( www.e3sparkplugs.com). I have also tried Bosch Platinum +3 plugs, prior to E3s. None of them showed a significant gain in MPGs to post about, until I tried the Pulstar Plugs. BTW, I removed the battery cables and reset the ECM after installing them, to clear the O2 sensor feedback circuits.

Before installing the Pulstar plugs, I would typically be getting good mileage, when I hit 100 miles at tankful. This time however, I got 125 miles at tankful, which included the first 30 miles being city driving, before heading out on the highway for a 150 mile trip up North, here in Michigan.

You can call these snake oil, but they appear to be working GOOD. FWIW, I did some research into various articles/tests on the Pulstar Plugs, as well as DirectHits, which is another subsidiary of Pulstar. DirectHits attaches to any plug and puts the Pulse Circuit between the plugs and wires.

Again, I will be doing more MPG testing of these plugs and will post back more results. 4+ MPGs is preliminary. Thanks.

P.S. You can also follow more of this thread on IFJSA.org site at http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=86853
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gripped from another thread;
A spark in the combustion chamber has one job and one job only...ignite the mixture. Once ignition has been obtained, the flame front progresses across the combustion chamber regardless of the manner in which ignition occurred. The average power delivered by the spark of each spark plug is about the same and the energy delivered is about the same too...based on their numbers, about .0015 watt-seconds for conventional plugs vs .002 watt-seconds for this scam plug.

I can make a case for the Pulstar plug making less power. They say their spark lasts 2 billionths of a second while in conventional plugs the spark lasts 30 milllionths of a second. That means there is a shorter amount of time the A/F mixture is exposed to a means of igniting, so if the swirling mixture isn't exactly the right ratio at the point of the Pulstar when it gets its' short burst, a misfire will result causing a reduction in power and with the new OBD II system, it'll throw an "engine misfire" code. The longer duration of the conventional plug means a longer opportunity to ignite a marginal mixture. This is like an engine that makes high peak power but only in a very narrow, very high RPM range vs an engine that has less peak power but it's average power over the RPM band used during acceleration (usuable power band) is much greater. The engine with less peak power will kick the high peak power engine's butt all the way down the quarter mile.

Just another company preying on the ignorance of the general public in these times of high gas prices. Put it in the same category as the "Tornado" device et al that claim gains in HP and MPG with a simple device that's cheap enough for people to say "what the hell, it's not much money if it doesn't work", but they make a killing because it cost them pennies on the dollar to produce. Whenever you see one of these simple "devices", ask yourself in these times of high gas prices, EPA demands for higher MPG, and the consumers clamouring for high MPG cars, why don't we see any single car manufacturer putting these gas saving/power making devices on their cars from the facory so they can be the first with a car getting 100 MPG???

But there will always be ignorant people or those looking to get something for nothing that'll buy these things...much like what's going on in the world of hybrid cars where people think they are saving money when in fact they are much more expensive. I laugh at Prius owners when I ask them if they realize they'll have to drive the car for 20 years/800,000 miles just to get to break even on the extra money they spent for their "money saving" purchase. The look on their face is priceless when I show them the math...even better when I tell them the car will never last that long.
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I installed a set in my 2000 Focus 2.0L SOHC on Thursday. 2 weeks ago, I drove from Oxford to Tawas City and back for the weekend and averaged 31.5 MPG, which is the best I have gotten in a long time.

After installing the Pulstar plug on Thursday, I headed up to Tawas City again this past weekend. I averaged 35.53 MPG, a gain of 4 MPG with the pulstar plugs.

I have owned this car for 2.5 years and the best MPG's I have ever gotten on it were 34.3, previous best of 33.5 and usually just around 31.5 on the highway.

It appears that the plugs DO work. The best place to buy them is at www.tunertools.com as they have the cheapest shipping (priority mail).

Just an FYI, before purchasing, I checked out some of the independant testing of the plugs, which showed improments of 1%-14% depending on vehicle tested.

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Unless you drive in absolute identical conditions everyday, including wind speed, temperature, humidity, barometric pressure, etc. etc., there are too many variables to be able to prove that the plugs do work.
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Well if what most of you are saying is true then why did all auto manufactrers move up from 25000 volts to 50000 volt spark ignitions system that we have today. And secondly if you have a more control amount of time the spark is being produce then you control of said spark igniting point could be at the opitimal timimg point of gas air mixture which would concude a better firing of the the fuel to produce a cleaner more powerfull stroke. Wow closed minds all think alike. The more precise the engine runs the less gas it needs to go has far. With that being said the test that most manufactures do dose not change how or the wheres for the sparkplug changes nor do they or could show that the claims being made are false.I can take any engine out there being made and make it keep the same mileage with any up grade to make a point that it did not improve anything. Don't shoot a guy down if he has improved his mileage with changing the sparkplugs. It's like this in the mid 70 I had a chevlle that was getting 25 mile / gal in the city and 35+ on the open road at 65-70mph with 283 V8 and power glide trans ( 2 speed auto) stock rear end gears. And no I didn't drive like grandma either Back then and still today I have one heavy right foot.
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what a load of crap. this is the only thing i've seen and tested first hand to know that it works. i'm not saying it increases mileage or make serious power just that it does increase total spark energy. http://www.nology.com/hotwork.html we used a high voltage meter in school to test the diffrence between a regular wire and a nolgy wire. the nology wire increased voltage by a considerable amount.
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Well if what most of you are saying is true then why did all auto manufactrers move up from 25000 volts to 50000 volt spark ignitions system that we have today. And secondly if you have a more control amount of time the spark is being produce then you control of said spark igniting point could be at the opitimal timimg point of gas air mixture which would concude a better firing of the the fuel to produce a cleaner more powerfull stroke. Wow closed minds all think alike. The more precise the engine runs the less gas it needs to go has far. With that being said the test that most manufactures do dose not change how or the wheres for the sparkplug changes nor do they or could show that the claims being made are false.I can take any engine out there being made and make it keep the same mileage with any up grade to make a point that it did not improve anything. Don't shoot a guy down if he has improved his mileage with changing the sparkplugs. It's like this in the mid 70 I had a chevlle that was getting 25 mile / gal in the city and 35+ on the open road at 65-70mph with 283 V8 and power glide trans ( 2 speed auto) stock rear end gears. And no I didn't drive like grandma either Back then and still today I have one heavy right foot.
Without making the rest of the variables the exact same in doing a gas mileage comparison, there is no definitive proof that the spark plugs did anything.

Spark timing has nothing to do with the spark plug itself.
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You could do a longer test, say 1 year, of just driving to work and back and get a pretty accurate result. One trip has too many variables though. I know in my Grand I get about 20mpg on the e-way , but if I follow a jacked up super duty I get about 25-27. That could be the difference in two trips for me with 2 different plugs, or air filters, or whatever. The test just needs to be averaged out for a longer period.
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This was only a preliminary posting on MPG results. I rarely get 31.5 on the car, even with trying different plugs and driving techniques (I have a 5-speed). The never ever before seen 35.5 MPG I netted will be followed up with a few more tanks of gas and posting back.
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lol @ 35 mpg carbureted chevelle. :tonka:
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Default 2nd Tank of Gas Results - City Driving

Filled up this AM and mileage is 30.71 MPG.

So, to recap ... Typical mileage on the car is 28-29 city and 31 highway. City MPGs are up a bit, also.

I'll be heading up North here in Michigan, tomorrow evening and will post back results. I am guessing that the 'highway' mileage this weekend will be less than last, due to the Holiday ... I-75 driving usually turns into a parking lot with everyone heading North, LOL! I may consider some "older" pre-expressway routes I can take on rural highways. Will post back results on Monday, when I'm back home.
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