Car and Driver / Drummond Island editorial is out - Page 2 - Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest

Go Back   Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > 4x4 Land Use > Rules, Regulations, Trail, and ORV Park Chat
GL4x4 Live! GL4x4 Casino

greatlakes4x4.com is the premier Great Lakes 4x4 Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old March 27th, 2008, 08:09 AM   #21
jeepfreak81
81 inches of fun
 
jeepfreak81's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-10-05
Location: Lennon, Mi
Posts: 12,267
iTrader: (22)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to jeepfreak81 Send a message via MSN to jeepfreak81 Send a message via Yahoo to jeepfreak81
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TopHeavy View Post
You would fly to Ann Arbor?
I didn't know the mag was based out of Ann Arbor.
jeepfreak81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old March 27th, 2008, 08:12 AM   #22
fsumotorhead
N8KVB
 
fsumotorhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-24-06
Location: Flat Rock, MI
Posts: 4,199
iTrader: (34)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I'm up for it, what's the address
fsumotorhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 27th, 2008, 03:05 PM   #23
lgottler
Senior Member
 
lgottler's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-30-06
Location: New Baltimore, MI
Posts: 1,353
iTrader: (15)
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Default

They kind of echo the thoughts most of us (at least me) have thou in their reply. Its a road, why can't I drive on it? I'm not eroding anything...watch what one wet season/winter storm does to the woods/trails!? Commercial....a club is commercial? taking pictures is commercial? paying to have someone guide you around is commercial?

But when it comes down to following the exact DNR rules, they screwed up. Sure did. Being a national (international) magazine, they should cross their I's and dot their T's! They should take the high ground on everything, permission from locals, state, etc...

My .02

Lucas
lgottler is online now   Reply With Quote
Old March 27th, 2008, 03:08 PM   #24
Romey
Senior Member
 
Romey's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Waterford MI
Posts: 1,958
iTrader: (1)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by clarkstoncracker View Post
Wow, what the response!

No signs on my neighbors front yard, anybody up for a mud bog?
No signs in YOUR front yard either. :tonka:
Romey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 27th, 2008, 03:56 PM   #25
scottie
American Leyland??
 
scottie's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Sweet home Georgia on my mind
Posts: 8,493
iTrader: (2)
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to scottie
Default

we could wheel in the parking lot, or have an autoX there, there are no signs in their parking lot on Hogback rd.

Its right near WCC, 2002 Hogback Rd.
scottie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 28th, 2008, 03:03 PM   #26
tweak
Are we there yet?
 
tweak's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-20-06
Location: Auburn, Mi
Posts: 1,933
iTrader: (22)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Wow - I never have and never will buy a C&D mag after that.
tweak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 3rd, 2008, 07:09 PM   #27
Mommabear
Happy Happy Joy Joy
 
Mommabear's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-24-06
Location: Elk Rapids Mi and San Jose California
Posts: 1,998
iTrader: (11)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Wow...I'm having a difficult time typing what I want to say right now, the ED response is unbelievable!
Mommabear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 3rd, 2008, 07:23 PM   #28
1crazyredneck
MichiganRednecks
 
1crazyredneck's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-05-07
Location: Lapeer, MI
Posts: 412
iTrader: (8)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Is this the article
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...omparison_test

I've never been to Drummond Island. So this may sound stupid.. But from the 10pics what is illegal as I don't know exactlly where these pics where taken. The road just looks like a early spring water over a 2 track.. Is that illegal?? OR is it the spot they are at that is illegal?? As far as driving on the beach.. Again I don't wanna sound stupid just wanna get informed. Is there signs that make it illegal to drive on the beach there?? Or is it illegal?? I'm just asking .. Don't bite my head off.
1crazyredneck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 3rd, 2008, 07:28 PM   #29
whiterhino
I'm not old, honest...
 
whiterhino's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-07-06
Location: Davisburg MI
Posts: 21,718
iTrader: (21)
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1crazyredneck View Post
Is this the article
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...omparison_test

I've never been to Drummond Island. So this may sound stupid.. But from the 10pics what is illegal as I don't know exactlly where these pics where taken. The road just looks like a early spring water over a 2 track.. Is that illegal?? OR is it the spot they are at that is illegal?? As far as driving on the beach.. Again I don't wanna sound stupid just wanna get informed. Is there signs that make it illegal to drive on the beach there?? Or is it illegal?? I'm just asking .. Don't bite my head off.
Read thru this thread.

http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=72187

Bottom line, you need to know the laws in Michigan. I'm sure you've heard the phrase "ignorance is no excuse for the law". Well, this is it. There are closed areas on Drummond Island and the local who guided them around took them there. It's not that they really did anything that was harmful but it gives the unknowing person the impression that they can drive wherever they want. The other thread will give you a lot of insight without me retyping it all.
whiterhino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 3rd, 2008, 07:41 PM   #30
Pre4runner
Bike Dude
 
Pre4runner's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-07-05
Location: Kawkawlin, mi
Posts: 2,098
iTrader: (14)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to Pre4runner
Default

I think that is a terrible response.... they could have simply said we did not do enough research into where we were going and should have taken a better look at things.

Something that simple woul dhave been a much better response... instead he sounds like a jack @$$
Pre4runner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 3rd, 2008, 07:41 PM   #31
1crazyredneck
MichiganRednecks
 
1crazyredneck's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-05-07
Location: Lapeer, MI
Posts: 412
iTrader: (8)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Ok.. I'll read thru it.. I honestly know nothing about DI I didn't know that there are closed parts.. And I totally understand if there are parts that are off limits then they surely shouldn't have been there..
1crazyredneck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 3rd, 2008, 07:52 PM   #32
pwilson22000
Senior Member
 
Join Date: 05-23-07
Location: Allegan, MI
Posts: 246
iTrader: (5)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I can't believe no one else has mailed the editor yet.
pwilson22000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 3rd, 2008, 08:44 PM   #33
jeepfreak81
81 inches of fun
 
jeepfreak81's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-10-05
Location: Lennon, Mi
Posts: 12,267
iTrader: (22)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to jeepfreak81 Send a message via MSN to jeepfreak81 Send a message via Yahoo to jeepfreak81
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pwilson22000 View Post
I can't believe no one else has mailed the editor yet.
There was.... That was the only letter they used. I know because I was one of the other people.
jeepfreak81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 3rd, 2008, 11:04 PM   #34
scottie
American Leyland??
 
scottie's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Sweet home Georgia on my mind
Posts: 8,493
iTrader: (2)
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to scottie
Default

In other Notes, a picture of my ass is in that issue of c&D

and did anyone else read the other comments on the same subject, they jokingly admited to tearing up drummond Island.
scottie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 4th, 2008, 04:52 AM   #35
whiterhino
I'm not old, honest...
 
whiterhino's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-07-06
Location: Davisburg MI
Posts: 21,718
iTrader: (21)
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepfreak81 View Post
There was.... That was the only letter they used. I know because I was one of the other people.
x2
whiterhino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 4th, 2008, 05:10 AM   #36
Yetti
Buy a Fiat! Save the UAW!
 
Yetti's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: 20 minutes south of Hell...
Posts: 14,385
iTrader: (10)
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KartRacer View Post
Wow, they are clueless.

welcome to my world. I grew up for the most part around the ass hats that started that mag and their vermin children. punk kids who used to drive Ferrari's to school on daddys dime. they really have such an elitiest attitude they could careless what or who they hurt.
__________________
Yetti
Yetti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 4th, 2008, 08:53 AM   #37
GreaseMonkey
Senior Member
 
GreaseMonkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-04-05
Location: Madison Heights, MI
Posts: 18,004
iTrader: (22)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Default

They're always smart asses in their replies, even if the writer completely called them out with straight hard facts on something they were wrong about.
GreaseMonkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 4th, 2008, 02:25 PM   #38
scottie
American Leyland??
 
scottie's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Sweet home Georgia on my mind
Posts: 8,493
iTrader: (2)
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to scottie
Default

I don't know, i've met quite a few the C&D people over the years, or at least ones that started at C&D, they've all been really nice people.

Did they let me drive their fancy test cars, no, did they let me look, yes.

Don't know this Ed guy though. I have a feeling he is just clueless on the subject and and thinks he needs to stick up to a certain image.
scottie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 4th, 2008, 04:14 PM   #39
Rattler
Home Sweet Homicide
 
Rattler's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-17-06
Location: Bei City
Posts: 3,658
iTrader: (1)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I have subscribed to C&D for @ 10 years. I really didn't think his response was all that bad compared to what I have seen in the past. There is usually a lot of sarcasm laced in them. I do think they should have treated the issue with a little more sensitivity though.

If you look further in the issue there is a pic of a Toyota 4x4 with a tire up on one of the participant's POS racecars. I think its page 119 in the article about the 24 Hrs. Of Lemons. I beleive that is 88YJ's. I haven't had a chance to email him about it to confirm yet.
Rattler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 4th, 2008, 04:38 PM   #40
scottie
American Leyland??
 
scottie's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Sweet home Georgia on my mind
Posts: 8,493
iTrader: (2)
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to scottie
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rattler View Post
I have subscribed to C&D for @ 10 years. I really didn't think his response was all that bad compared to what I have seen in the past. There is usually a lot of sarcasm laced in them. I do think they should have treated the issue with a little more sensitivity though.

If you look further in the issue there is a pic of a Toyota 4x4 with a tire up on one of the participant's POS racecars. I think its page 119 in the article about the 24 Hrs. Of Lemons. I beleive that is 88YJ's. I haven't had a chance to email him about it to confirm yet.

yes it is, and the goofy looking dude in the blue jacket helping fuel the Diplomat is me.
scottie is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > 4x4 Land Use > Rules, Regulations, Trail, and ORV Park Chat

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:41 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright 2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Page generated in 0.33293 seconds with 81 queries