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Old March 25th, 2008, 10:08 PM   #41
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Like I said before, if your going to use this as a commuter your going to want to be very comfortable. Dual sports are fun and all but get old commuting on them. If you truly are going to ride everyday, in the rain and all, stopping occassionally to buy the gallon of milk on the way home and such, there are bikes better suited to that task. Heck a Suzuki Vstrom 650 has some weather protection, will handle the road much better, and will be much smoother and comfortable. There are many bikes similar that also fit this bill and you can get them cheap.
I'm not trying to knock the dual sport. The KLR that Mike bought is nice, but it takes a special kind of person to ride one everyday for 6 months. And we all know Mike is a "special" guy.
Then again, if your commute is all fire roads and such, the KLR would be a hoot.
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Old March 25th, 2008, 10:16 PM   #42
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My problem was, it was hard as hell to find a decent used bike that wasn't a cruiser or Crotch rocket.

I'd take a late 90's BMW R1100, but yeah.
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I couldn't believe how smooth the BMW was. I have ridden the Kaw dual sports. They feel like a dirt bike converted to dual use to me. The BMW is a whole different breed of bike. The European duals are true dual sports. The one I rode was like a street bike with tons of travel, smooth and easy to control. But they get some good coin for them and they are hard to find used.
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Old March 25th, 2008, 10:24 PM   #44
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I'm considering the bike more as a summer toy instead of a way to drive down my monthly fuel expense. Hell, my dd is a Focus for cinnamon crispas sake.

The dual sport grabbed my attention because of the upright seating position. The seat position and my ogre physique would give me a bird's eye view of the road. Slap an ORV sticker on it and there aren't many places you can't go.
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Old March 25th, 2008, 10:25 PM   #45
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I couldn't believe how smooth the BMW was. I have ridden the Kaw dual sports. They feel like a dirt bike converted to dual use to me. The BMW is a whole different breed of bike. The European duals are true dual sports. The one I rode was like a street bike with tons of travel, smooth and easy to control. But they get some good coin for them and they are hard to find used.

I might buy one a few years down the road but I didn't want to pony up the cash for one right now...considering what I paid the Kawi I couldn't pass it up..shit I could have bought at least three of the Kawi's to one Beamer!:tonka:
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hey mike. I found that net. I'll try to remember it tomorrow for you.
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sweet!..because I forgot to buy one again the other day when I was up ordering my bar warmers and new gear!!:tonka:
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you mean the artic cat gear you were wearing last week wasn't good enough?
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roadrace leathers=out unless I'm at the track!
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is that what those were? I only saw you at a glance and I saw black and green. lol Thought maybe you had snowmobile gear on considering how cold it was.

you think that KLR would do well at the track?
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is that what those were? I only saw you at a glance and I saw black and green. lol Thought maybe you had snowmobile gear on considering how cold it was.

you think that KLR would do well at the track?
roadrace or supermotard=no....motocross=no....hare scramble=no...ride it around and pretend it would be good then yes!
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roadrace or supermotard=no....motocross=no....hare scramble=no...ride it around and pretend it would be good then yes!
you could stick those elbows up ben spies style and get in a little tuck and look fast though!
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Honda XR650L, among what others have said.

Converting a newer XR650R would be nice too:
http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcy/597241317.html

Super clean older KTM, kinda expensive for the year: http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcy/609604653.html
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that is actually a good price for the KTM..those things hold thier value...funny thing is the ad says "never seen dirt" but yet it appears to have dirt only tires on it?? weird...
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The dual sport grabbed my attention because of the upright seating position. The seat position and my ogre physique would give me a bird's eye view of the road. Slap an ORV sticker on it and there aren't many places you can't go.
Motorcycles are where it's at for ORV use in Michigan. If you want capable offroad/trail capability, stay away from the heavy ( > 280 - 300 lbs) bikes.
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hey fuckface...the klr is good for 60+mpg so you go back to class
Let me fix that for you then:

He gets 35mpg now. He buys this enduro and gets 60mpg. He has saved 25mpg. He drives 64miles per day. That's 1.83 gallons with the car and 1.07 gallons with the bike. A savings of 0.76 gallons a day. Let's assume he rides the bike 4 months at 5 days per week = 80 days x 0.76 = 61 gallons he has saved per year. Even at $4 per gallon

that's only $244 in savings per year. But it cost him $5K to purchase. Had he put that $5K in even a conservative mutual fund with a 6% return he would have made $300 compounded per year and when he decided to "sell" it would not have depreciated. It is not a SMART purchase, but if you want the bike for fun go for it.
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Bad idea for commuting purposes based on math and convenience - although you don't really need to worry about messing up your hair. Jeff is right. You would have to ride the fukc out of it for years to make it a worth buying to save money on gas, in addition to it being an additional drain on funds due to maintenance requirements.

Most people are also turned off to doing this once they start riding in rush hour traffic due to all the mobile offices, restaraunts, and beauty parlors going down the road next to them. If I were to ride to work, I would buy something large, comfy, and loud - like a Dyna, Fat Boy, or Road King (which makes the math even worse).
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I would check out the Kawasaki KLR 650, Suzuki DR650, Yamaha XT600?, Honda XL 650 or a XR 600 that has been converted. I owned a coverted XR 600 for a while, but got rid of it because it was way to tall for me. I'm 5'10" 180lbs with a 30" inseam and could barely touch the ground. Plus kicking over a 600cc bike sort of sucks. I imagine you would be happier with a big bike because of your physical size.

Also don't be afraid of the non street legal bikes, because you can get Baja Designs conversion kits for a lot of different bikes.

As far as the more road oriented bikes you will not be happy on a dirt road with them. I used to take the old ninja 750 down a dirt road or two and it sucked bad.

Maybe I'll have to get one too.....We could start a motorcyle gang or something.
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Let me fix that for you then:

He gets 35mpg now. He buys this enduro and gets 60mpg. He has saved 25mpg. He drives 64miles per day. That's 1.83 gallons with the car and 1.07 gallons with the bike. A savings of 0.76 gallons a day. Let's assume he rides the bike 4 months at 5 days per week = 80 days x 0.76 = 61 gallons he has saved per year. Even at $4 per gallon

that's only $244 in savings per year. But it cost him $5K to purchase. Had he put that $5K in even a conservative mutual fund with a 6% return he would have made $300 compounded per year and when he decided to "sell" it would not have depreciated. It is not a SMART purchase, but if you want the bike for fun go for it.


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