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Old March 18th, 2008, 06:34 AM   #21
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My dad had to show a young concrete guy how to use a hammer to pull the nails on the forms.
He could not believe it, the guy was extremely grateful for showing him how to do it.

They must not have hammers in the inner-city. Messed up world we live in.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 06:37 AM   #22
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I don't think using a tape measure is on any of the tests they have to take in school now. So, no teacher will waste time on it. Teach to the test...
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Old March 18th, 2008, 06:50 AM   #23
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it just goes to show that schools aren't teaching enough of the real world fundamentals these days. most schools require you to take at lest 1 semester of a shop class, at least they used to. try finding someone that can read a micrometer these days, good luck with that one, every thing is digital now days, you can even get digital tape measures. and we wonder why we have a bunch of incompetant employees in the work force. blame the school systems and lazy parents.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 06:52 AM   #24
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I am really good at using part of a tape measure. I can measure 10.5 inches, Im part of the club you know the massive man club like rockdogg. Just dont ask my wife:tonka:
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Old March 18th, 2008, 06:54 AM   #25
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really confuse people have them use 1/100 th of an inch as a standard of measure. its sad life as we know it is over. if the computer cant do it, lets get some illegal aliens that can!
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Old March 18th, 2008, 06:57 AM   #26
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i think you relics need to realize that tools die out of usage and new ones replace them. How many of you guys can use ANY of the tools the egyptians used building the pyramids? At least an abacus maybe?
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Old March 18th, 2008, 06:59 AM   #27
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metric conversion 25.4mm=1" not that hard to convert to metric either i don't think they teach that any more either.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 07:01 AM   #28
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you mean use are backs to move large stones?
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Old March 18th, 2008, 07:05 AM   #29
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I am us one weekly.. i still know to hold the dumb end and give the smart end to someone else!! Never was trained on it back in school.. now if i have to measure, I just remember which mark it is on the tape and transfer it over. I can do 1/2 and 1/4 and maybe 1/8.. but thats about it
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Old March 18th, 2008, 07:12 AM   #30
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i think you relics need to realize that tools die out of usage and new ones replace them. How many of you guys can use ANY of the tools the egyptians used building the pyramids? At least an abacus maybe?
Just in case you are questioning WTF an abacus is ...

Now I'm not that old, but my grandfather was a civil engineer and he taught me how to use a slide rule ... show one of those to a 12th grader!
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Old March 18th, 2008, 07:30 AM   #31
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Just in case you are questioning WTF an abacus is ...

Now I'm not that old, but my grandfather was a civil engineer and he taught me how to use a slide rule ... show one of those to a 12th grader!
i learned to use a slide rule in school.. .. my dad used to have one around the house also...
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Old March 18th, 2008, 08:02 AM   #32
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i learned to use a slide rule in school.. .. my dad used to have one around the house also...
There's some really old calculators in one of the buildings here, one of them is an old Texas Instruments Electronic Slide Rule
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Old March 18th, 2008, 08:14 AM   #33
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it just goes to show that schools aren't teaching enough of the real world fundamentals these days. most schools require you to take at lest 1 semester of a shop class, at least they used to. try finding someone that can read a micrometer these days, good luck with that one, every thing is digital now days, you can even get digital tape measures. and we wonder why we have a bunch of incompetant employees in the work force. blame the school systems and lazy parents.
Don't blame the school system, blame the legislature that dictates what has to be taught and then publishes the results of the state designed assessment in the newspaper. It used to be that school districts determined their own curricula, now the state determines it.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 09:32 AM   #34
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a frien of mines G/F in college was in the school of education, she wanted to be an elemetary teacher, she came to the house one day bitching cause she couldn't figure out fractions, i was just lik, WTF are you serious?
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Old March 18th, 2008, 10:47 AM   #35
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I remember back in school with the paper rulers you had to pencil in lines on it corresponding to numbers/fractions they gave you....musta been like K or 1....don't they do that anymore???

The people I'm talking about...one goes to college currently, the other(s) are 30-40yr old workers with high school only. I only have one other person that works in the shop that can read a tape measure.....problem is he's so blind he usually makes mistakes cuz he can't see the numbers, the dial or the digits!
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Old March 18th, 2008, 11:46 AM   #36
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How about converting decimal into inches or vice versa? Hardly anyone at work can do that either. Those guys drives me nuts.
very hard to find someone who knows, at least with my people experience. This too is something I do over and over again all day long since parameter boxes don't allow you to type fractions you have to convert to decimal.

to figure out decimal equivalent of a fraction. (common fractions found on rulers)

X/32 = Numerator times 0.03125
X/16 = Numerator times 0.0625
X/8 = Numerator times 0.125

seriously when doing stuff at home I measure with the ruler or tape measure then force of habit write down the decimal equivalent.

but still my biggest pet peeve is kids who cannot make freakin change for money if the register is broke.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 12:06 PM   #37
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but still my biggest pet peeve is kids who cannot make freakin change for money if the register is broke.
that's always a classic
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Old March 18th, 2008, 12:23 PM   #38
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I can read conventional tape measures.

I cannot stand the tape measures that are both metric and inches. Too much fucking bullshit on them these days.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 03:21 PM   #39
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It is gettting hard to find a regular tape measure anymore, most of them have the factions printed on the lines for the idiots. IMO it is harder to read one like that with all the extra crap printed on them. I use a tape measure or folding rule all day long at work.
I recently broke my favorite tape measure (stanley lever lock 25ft) and couldn't find another one without the fractions or metric, I ended up buying 3 different tapes before I found one that I liked.
Another rant is why can't I find a standard inside read 6ft rule anywhere in my area. I either have to special order them from the hardware store or online. Either way it takes days to get a new one and I am lost without it at work if my old one is broken beyond use.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 03:22 PM   #40
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when i was younger i set up manual shearing machines to cut sheet metal. every tape measure is different. they are within 1/16th to 1/8th. we had a gauge to check the parts for actual size. i took a day off some other guy set up the machine with his tape and ran production that way. had thousdands of aluminuim sheets in varrying sizes. made alot of scrap that day.
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