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Old March 16th, 2008, 07:27 PM   #41
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You're kidding me, right?

All I have to say, on this topic at least, is if you think you're such an E-85/Ethanol wizard, maybe you should take your generous and oh-so plentiful knowledge to SAE and tell them that their data/findings are wrong

Some of the bullshit you've "added" to this discussion is nothing more than that - bullshit, and it goes against more than a few SAE published documents that I have read (if you really must, I can cite them for you when I find time). Going on the internet, reading some bias propaganda website, and then regurgitating the info does not make you knowledgeable on the subject
I wish I was as talented as you and capable to read only a few posts above ...

http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showpos...0&postcount=27

Did you take any reading lessons? Because if you didnt, dont bother trying.

I do however suggest you learn to read and do a few more Google searches and you will likely find that you are the one adding bullshit to the conversation. Pay close attention to the government sites like EPA.

Put your diaper back on and I think I may have a "binky" for you.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 07:40 PM   #42
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For TeH ReFrEsH because apparently you can't comprehend

You said this:

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When you do not have any personal experience with a product, you really should keep you diapers on and sit back down in the corner.
Yet YOU spouted off with this crap about one of the previous posts being lies.

Again, because you're a moron, and can't comprehend, I'm NOT google-ing anything. Unlike yourself I'm involved with the industry, and get my facts from reputable sources inside the industry, not some secondhand circle-jerk propaganda site.

If You would like to Google some more bullshit to 'add' to this discussion, feel free....there are many here, including myself, who can debunk that crap (and actually cite the post with credible sources)
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Old March 16th, 2008, 07:55 PM   #43
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Detroit Free Press just mentioned that it takes 600 gallons of fresh water to produce enough ethanol to allow the average car to travel one mile.

With dwindling fresh water supplies this doesn't bode well for teh ethanol either.

my uneducated $0.02
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Old March 16th, 2008, 08:19 PM   #44
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For TeH ReFrEsH because apparently you can't comprehend

You said this:



Yet YOU spouted off with this crap about one of the previous posts being lies.

Again, because you're a moron, and can't comprehend, I'm NOT google-ing anything. Unlike yourself I'm involved with the industry, and get my facts from reputable sources inside the industry, not some secondhand circle-jerk propaganda site.

If You would like to Google some more bullshit to 'add' to this discussion, feel free....there are many here, including myself, who can debunk that crap (and actually cite the post with credible sources)
Wow, you do REALLY need an education.

I was asking an "Expert" if they figured the FAQ was full of lies!

Do some research and come back with some more "Dee Dee Dee".
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Old March 16th, 2008, 08:22 PM   #45
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Ive converted my truck to run on hopes and dreams.. and im soo full of those that ill never have to buy gas again !
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Old March 16th, 2008, 08:54 PM   #46
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I just have aj and all his friends push me around where ever I want to go.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 09:20 PM   #47
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Wow, you do REALLY need an education.

I was asking an "Expert" if they figured the FAQ was full of lies!

Do some research and come back with some more "Dee Dee Dee".
This is my last reply to this pointless argument with you....

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So you're telling me the above is simply a question, and not a smart ass "I know everything on E-85 because this FAQ says so" reply??

The whole "" sure makes it sound more like you're accusing the 'expert' of being full of shit.....and then you told others not to post on a topic unless they had real world experience with the topic at hand...which then brings me to my first comment....
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Old March 16th, 2008, 09:50 PM   #48
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I'm not an enviro-nazi, but I hear E85 is worse for the environment than gasoline? Found a new article just recently on that.
the carbon footprint for harvesting, processing and distribution is not really anything of sigificance for saving the planet. it is not that enviro-hippy. it is however from here in the USA, it is not putting money in a arab sheik's pocket, and it is 'renewable'. my guess at some of the PRO's.

however. i like to eat corn, and corn bread, and have hi-fructose corn syrup, and candy corn. That will all get more $$ as land is allocated for fuel 'production' and not food.

oh well, i <3 america and it's few sources of income.

p.s. my german car doesn't take e85 (but it does get decent MPG so i am saving the planet right?). :tonka:
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Old March 16th, 2008, 09:55 PM   #49
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This is my last reply to this pointless argument with you....



So you're telling me the above is simply a question, and not a smart ass "I know everything on E-85 because this FAQ says so" reply??

The whole "" sure makes it sound more like you're accusing the 'expert' of being full of shit.....and then you told others not to post on a topic unless they had real world experience with the topic at hand...which then brings me to my first comment....
Wow! Did I say I was an expert in this field AND where did I say I was NOT an expert in the field? Why dont you start there?

I only told one shit-disturber to avoid posting shit unless they had real-world experience. I only provided a link and vid for the original poster who asked some questions of an "expert". Then I got bullshit from you and Hag gar. You do the math.

That FAQ and many others exist on websites all around / web. Had you only done some research before your started with accusations and bullshit, you may have saved us both a hell of a lot of typing. I hate typing!

So please, take the time to learn how to read first.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 10:00 PM   #50
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Old March 16th, 2008, 10:37 PM   #51
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Wl assuming what you mean by "it" is E85.... here are some facts that I have posted on another forum....





now, there is a guy who has been running E85 in his LS1 Camaro for some time now... however, he truly understands E85 and knows what materials it works with and doesn't work with. So again, if you decide to do this just because you read it somewhere that it would work and don't really know what you are doing, you have to be able to pay the consequences if they occur.

On a side note, with E85 becoming more popular, there is a trend where the auto companies are starting to use more components that are capable of being run in both fuels, but again... unless you know what those are and what your components are don't do it.... but again.... its just my opinion - written on the internet....
No what I mean is we have E85 AND some other blend, probably E20. If you look up E85 there are only select sites in Iowa where you can get it, just like michigan. This blend I'm referring to replaces Mid-grade (89 octane) in ALL gas stations. The reason I know it isn't E85 is because I've been to gas stations that serve both E85 and this other blend.
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Old March 16th, 2008, 10:53 PM   #52
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Well, thats fine.... personally I like to go with the info provided from the OEMs that create the vehicles rather then aftermarket sources.... true, the OEMs are generally conservitive on their information, but they were the ones who designed it in the first place.... to each is their own I guess.... I am just trying to convey experience, take it as you wish.....

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I did research on E85 back in 2000 and found a lot of bad things. We had a lot of trouble finding current fuel lines and parts that wouldn't dissolve in the ethanol.

Until you have seen the reaction of E85 on standard gas parts you shouldn't even guess what it will do.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 12:32 AM   #53
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Old March 17th, 2008, 04:45 PM   #54
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Oh Shit!

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Old March 17th, 2008, 04:49 PM   #55
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ill take E-0 with lead

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Old March 17th, 2008, 04:59 PM   #56
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Just mix the two 6 Gal of Gas to 4 gal of e85 perfect mix for my jeep runs great and cooler its 99 octane.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 07:15 PM   #57
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Just mix the two 6 Gal of Gas to 4 gal of e85 perfect mix for my jeep runs great and cooler its 99 octane.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 09:38 PM   #58
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I know that most newer cars with electronic fuel injection now days will compensate for different air-fuel mixtures, but ive been told they wont function much beyond 30%ethanol. Keep us posted on how its goin, good or bad.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 10:43 PM   #59
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Old March 17th, 2008, 11:17 PM   #60
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my wifes van is a 99 dodge and is e 85 approved(flex fuel option). being this old do you tihink the parts in the internals are not of a material that will not break down from e85.
just curious i dont think i will ever switch over.
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