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Old March 5th, 2008, 07:07 PM   #81
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I thought the dog was live?

If dead I do not have as much of a problem, though I still think its kinda dumb. but not death threat dumb.
Well, nobody has said if it was dead or alive. I just happened to see a blog with the "yelp" audio laid out on a digital meter graph thingy and all the yelps were the same exact loudness. It could also be that the dog was yelping louder as it went further away.

I'm making my comments based on the thought that the dog was already dead.
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Well, nobody has said if it was dead or alive. I just happened to see a blog with the "yelp" audio laid out on a digital meter graph thingy and all the yelps were the same exact loudness. It could also be that the dog was yelping louder as it went further away.

I'm making my comments based on the thought that the dog was already dead.
I was reading your comments based on believing the dog was alive (I was at work and could not turn up sound)
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the yipping did sound faked.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 07:27 PM   #84
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sorry, but the war didn't effect those things, living breathing people did...like your president.
Your partly right, he's our president (unfortunately) but those things were done because of the war on terror.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 07:34 PM   #85
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pssst - that would be "our" President....

Fertilizer restrictions came out after OKC bombing in the Clinton administration.

Not a lot of phone tapping going on for U.S. citizens talking to other U.S. citizens in the U.S. It's a time of war - if you want to chat with people in unfriendly, sympathetic, or enemy countries expect to be tapped.

Ammo limitations? Haven't run into those yet - well other than the elevated prices driven by the Chinese buying up metals and chemicals to feed their industrialization. I do recall the Clinton "assault weapon" legislation putting a cap on how much ammo one could buy/store.

Passports from Canada? Good idea. They let anybody in, and our border is just too porous. Living on the border like I do, it's amazing the amount of cross-border traffic that goes on (and how routine it is to see the Border Patrol with a full load or two).

That is EXECTLY how the president wants all the good little sheeple to see it. Take a little bit away here, for the good of the people, take a little bit there, for the good of the people of course. And a little bit more, and a little more (for the good of control...shhhh they won't notice)
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Old March 5th, 2008, 07:45 PM   #86
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That is EXECTLY how the president wants all the good little sheeple to see it. Take a little bit away here, for the good of the people, take a little bit there, for the good of the people of course. And a little bit more, and a little more (for the good of control...shhhh they won't notice)
if you think it's bad now better break out the body bags if hitlery or osama get in office. they will be going door to door collecting firearms to keep the population defenseless against political tyranny
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Old March 5th, 2008, 08:08 PM   #87
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if you think it's bad now better break out the body bags if hitlery or osama get in office. they will be going door to door collecting firearms to keep the population defenseless against political tyranny
do you honestly believe that?

it's not gonna happen. let's pretend it will, are you going to go down in a hail of gunfire when they come for your guns?
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do you honestly believe that?

it's not gonna happen. let's pretend it will, are you going to go down in a hail of gunfire when they come for your guns?
thats a start. thank god it was shot down.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g...qK2ugD8V7H1R81
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do you honestly believe that?

it's not gonna happen. let's pretend it will, are you going to go down in a hail of gunfire when they come for your guns?
no, i will hide them or give them the ones i can live without.
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do you honestly believe that?

it's not gonna happen. let's pretend it will, are you going to go down in a hail of gunfire when they come for your guns?
Its how Hitler and Stalin gained power. they first outlawed guns, then declared themselves dictators. Any tyrant wants fewer guns in the hands of the people that can fight him/HER.

No one could fight back.
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Killing animals for food = good.
Killing animals that are already dying = good.
Throwing puppies off a cliff = bad.
Throwing kittens off a cliff = really bad.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 11:04 PM   #92
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I've never abused an animal. And please read up on what an "animal" is.




I'm thinking you eluding to insects aren't animals, or snakes are reptiles not animals. HMMMM

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–noun 1. any member of the kingdom Animalia, comprising multicellular organisms that have a well-defined shape and usually limited growth, can move voluntarily, actively acquire food and digest it internally, and have sensory and nervous systems that allow them to respond rapidly to stimuli: some classification schemes also include protozoa and certain other single-celled eukaryotes that have motility and animallike nutritional modes.

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Old March 5th, 2008, 11:14 PM   #93
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Its how Hitler and Stalin gained power. they first outlawed guns, then declared themselves dictators. Any tyrant wants fewer guns in the hands of the people that can fight him/HER.

No one could fight back.
i understand this. you think that Obama is going to take away all of your guns to declare himself a dictator? Who's been drinking the "special kool-aid"?
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do you honestly believe that?

it's not gonna happen. let's pretend it will, are you going to go down in a hail of gunfire when they come for your guns?
I'm stockpiling puppies and kittens to throw at people. Maybe some bunnies, and peeps. Then for the heavy action I'll have a few fawns, calfs, and a couple of pony's.
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another video sence the youtube was taken down

http://digg.com/people/US_Soldier_th...f_cliff_(video)
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Old March 6th, 2008, 07:59 AM   #96
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I have no doubt that if we had a democrat president and congress at the same time they would start outlawing/collecting privately owned guns. clinton tried it, luckily we got a republican congress before they went too far
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Look up brady bill and assault weapons ban 1994 if you think its koolaid
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MONROE, Wash. -- A graphic video on the Web site YouTube has lead to death threats toward a soldier and his family, reported KIRO 7 Eyewitness News.

The video shows two Marines who are apparently overseas. One is holding what appears to be a puppy, which is then thrown off a cliff.

One of the Marines is called by name in the video, which has led to the man becoming the target of hate mail on thousands of Web sites. The Marine’s family, who lives in Monroe, has received death threats over the phone.

KIRO 7 Eyewitness News reporter Gary Horcher talked to a woman who lives in the family’s neighborhood, but declined to be identified by more than her first name.

“The hatred that’s gone on towards this family is completely out of control, and I think it’s just people looking for something. They hate already, so now they’re just focusing their hate on this poor family and it’s completely wrong," said Dana.

Police and sheriff’s deputies are watching the area where the Marine's family lives and warned KIRO 7 news crews not to go near the family’s home.

The Marine Corps released a statement from Hawaii, where the Marine seen in the video is based.

“The video is shocking and deplorable and is contrary to the high standards we expect of every Marine. The Marine Corps does not tolerate this type of behavior, and will take appropriate action," it read.

The family has disconnected their phone.

The authenticity of what is shown in the video has not been verified.
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MONROE, Wash. -- A graphic video on the Web site YouTube has lead to death threats toward a soldier and his family, reported KIRO 7 Eyewitness News.

The video shows two Marines who are apparently overseas. One is holding what appears to be a puppy, which is then thrown off a cliff.

One of the Marines is called by name in the video, which has led to the man becoming the target of hate mail on thousands of Web sites. The Marine’s family, who lives in Monroe, has received death threats over the phone.

KIRO 7 Eyewitness News reporter Gary Horcher talked to a woman who lives in the family’s neighborhood, but declined to be identified by more than her first name.

“The hatred that’s gone on towards this family is completely out of control, and I think it’s just people looking for something. They hate already, so now they’re just focusing their hate on this poor family and it’s completely wrong," said Dana.

Police and sheriff’s deputies are watching the area where the Marine's family lives and warned KIRO 7 news crews not to go near the family’s home.

The Marine Corps released a statement from Hawaii, where the Marine seen in the video is based.

“The video is shocking and deplorable and is contrary to the high standards we expect of every Marine. The Marine Corps does not tolerate this type of behavior, and will take appropriate action," it read.

The family has disconnected their phone.

The authenticity of what is shown in the video has not been verified.


Should the family (or the Marines for that matter) recieve death threats? Not in a million years.

Should the Marines be disciplined for their behaviour? Yes they should.

Everyone is focusing on the puppy. While I find it deplorable to treat an animal this way (yes, I am a contradiction since I am a hunter) I feel that the focus should be more on the behaviour of the Marine.

This is a cruel act. Plain and simple. This disregard for what is right flies in the face of the pride the Marines carry. It is also not what Americans should want to see in the people that represent them in this manner.

Yes, war is hell. Yes the enemy must die to win. Shooting an enemy combatant in the heat of battle is part of war. What the enemy does and what the U'S' finds acceptable are extremely different.

America holds herself to a higher standard. This standard is what we ask others to hold themselves to. Do not allow yourself to be brought down to the lowest common denominator or you become what you are fighting against.

For all that think the Iraqi people (not terrorists per se, but the people in general) are the lowest of the low, this Marine just brought himself and the corps he represents to that kind of a low level of respect.

Disclaimer: I have never been in the military. I have never been in combat. I am assuming this puppy was alive or at the very least, it's life was implied.

It is funny how a conversation like this can open a window into people true psyche.

Oh, and a thorough look at the history of war will show there is a huge difference between the fight on terror and the battles in places like the WWI trenches and the islands of the South Pacific in WWII. In wars of days gone by the enemy was obvious. And many battles took place in areas where there were little if any civilian presence. That is no longer the case. In all wars, civilians die, it is an unfortunate reality. This war is being fought in the neighborhoods. This war must be fought to win hearts and minds (along with killing enemy combatants) since the war on terror is a war on ideology.
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do you honestly believe that?

it's not gonna happen. let's pretend it will, are you going to go down in a hail of gunfire when they come for your guns?
perhaps I should just be weak and hand them over in fear? or by your rationale hand them the astroglide so hitlery doesn't hurt you too bad with the strap-on.

this is america land of the free, home of the brave. I will not live my life by the example of "land of the opressed, home of the intimidated"

it only takes one "hail of gunfire" example to fuel the revolution

ironically how the brady bill was passed still grinds me. THE FUCKER HAD A JOB WHERE IT WAS HIS JOB TO TAKE A BULLET FOR THE PRESIDENT. THEN AFTER HE GETS SHOT IS BITCHING.
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