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Old March 5th, 2008, 12:49 PM   #21
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Theres a different story for every angle. If he was throwing a live puppy off the cliff, thats pretty sick, and he should be demoted or whatever happens to people like that.

But if it was a dead puppy, who cares. I'm sure everybody here has messed with a dead animal sometime in their lives. They probably shouldn't have filmed it.

Whats your opinions on this?

If you're an animal lover, you should not watch this.


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i am surprised they didnt shoot muhammed when he came out.
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comment from an unknow source on this video. My thoughts exactly
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Old March 5th, 2008, 12:50 PM   #23
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Are you kidding me? There are 3 dogs being given away on this website alone and it makes me sick.

Any kind of cruelty to animals is disgusting and makes me sick.
you switching from defending the black man to defending dogs today?
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Are you kidding me? There are 3 dogs being given away on this website alone and it makes me sick.

Any kind of cruelty to animals is disgusting and makes me sick.
sorry, but a couple soldiers tossing a dead dog off a cliff doesn't seem that bad to me.
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for all you pussies bitching about animal cruelty in that vid.

http://www.pet-abuse.com/pages/cruel...hp?us_state=MI
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granted the dog was already dead thats still fucked up. i hate those macho assholes that think there so much better then any other living thing because they have a gun and power to kill anyone or anything in there way.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 12:52 PM   #27
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to win a war you have to win hearts and minds...remember Vietnam?

To actually WIN a war, you have to kill as many of them as possible until they give up. Remember WW2?
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To actually WIN a war, you have to kill as many of them as possible until they give up. Remember WW2?
damn straight.
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To actually WIN a war, you have to kill as many of them as possible until they give up. Remember WW2?
that was a "conventional war" this is a "war on terror", to stop terrorism, we need to stop doing things that convince people to turn into terrorists...
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No, he and millions of americans don't remember the war we lost.
yup a democrat started that war. I have not forgot. hearts and minds my ass. you need to show them who is in control. not to some bullshit political policy.
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you switching from defending the black man to defending dogs today?
Is there a reason I shouldn't defend either?
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that was a "conventional war" this is a "war on terror", to stop terrorism, we need to stop doing things that convince people to turn into terrorists...
So I'm confused, are you saying to win the war on terror we must not piss anyone off or fight for our rights, protect what is ours?

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Sounds like pussification to me
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dude, don't post shit like that, that hose in the comic has rights, that is a just wrong showing animal cruelty like that
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Is there a reason I shouldn't defend either?
nope, keep up the good work jesse.

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dude, don't post shit like that, that hose in the comic has rights, that is a just wrong showing animal cruelty like that
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Anybody who hurts a dead horse, especially throwing it off the cliff should probably be executed.
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So I'm confused, are you saying to win the war on terror we must not piss anyone off or fight for our rights, protect what is ours?

BullShit

Sounds like pussification to me
1. piss anyone off- well, when we go into an area and do things that the locals don't like (ie killing civilians) we breed more terrorists

2. how are we fighting for OUR rights in Iraq?

3. How are we protecting what is OURS, in Iraq?

sounds like you're trumpeting for the Revolutionary War or something.
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It would appear that most of you have more sympathy for the puppy and not the people we are trying to help in Iraq.
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MI-Carmel Township
Feb 22, 2008 Animals abandoned in home
Neglect / Abandonment NOT CHARGED
woman

MI-Pontiac
Feb 14, 2008 Dog stabbed to death with stick
Stabbing ALLEGED
Paul Anthony Polasek

MI-Fairview
Feb 1, 2008 Four dogs poisoned
Poisoning OPEN


MI-Rexton
Jan 22, 2008 57 animals seized
Neglect / Abandonment ALLEGED


MI-Fowlerville
Jan 16, 2008 Sixteen dogs neglected, abandoned
Neglect / Abandonment ALLEGED
Karen Delores Howd

MI-Paw Paw
Jan 9, 2008 Puppy mill - 41 chihuahuas seized
Neglect / Abandonment, Hoarding ALLEGED
Jack Roon

MI-Detroit
Dec 27, 2007 Dog-fighting - several dogs found dead
Fighting NOT CHARGED


MI-Mason County
Dec 21, 2007 Dog shot
Shooting OPEN


MI-Kent City
Dec 19, 2007 Kitten’s ears cut off
Mutilation/Torture OPEN


MI-Warren
Dec 17, 2007 Two people, dog shot to death
Shooting OPEN


MI-Warren
Nov 2007 Dog and cat living in van for two months
Neglect / Abandonment ALLEGED


MI-Detroit
Oct 31, 2007 Litter of puppies hogtied in house, set on fire
Burning - Fire or Fireworks OPEN


MI-Brownstown Township
Oct 22, 2007 Puppy thrown over fence, resulting in death
Throwing ALLEGED
Khaled Hussein


MI-Traverse City
Oct 5, 2007 Dog stabbed 13 times
Stabbing ALLEGED
Nathan Davidson
Alex Goff
Ryan Lurie

MI-Ludington
Sep 30, 2007 Dog shot to death
Shooting OPEN


MI-Portage
Sep 24, 2007 Dog shot with arrow
Shooting OPEN


MI-Howard Township
Sep 12, 2007 Hoarding - 97 cats seized, 29 more in freezer
Hoarding CONVICTED
Carol A. Bowie

MI-Detroit
Sep 9, 2007 Dog-fighting - 2 dogs killed
Fighting ALLEGED
Donald Jenkins
Ayana Lee
Pierre Mason
more...


MI-West Olive
Sep 7, 2007 Dog shot, left for dead
Shooting OPEN


MI-Romulus
Sep 3, 2007 Dog starved to death
Neglect / Abandonment ALLEGED
Connie May Madison

MI-Coldwater
Aug 30, 2007 Cats neglected - 39 seized, several euthanized
Neglect / Abandonment ALLEGED
Richard Crocker

MI-Inkster
Aug 30, 2007 Dog-fighting - 2 dogs seized
Fighting ALLEGED
William Barker
Kedric Gray
Derrick Hall
more...


MI-Lansing
Aug 22, 2007 Dog stabbed to death outside elementary school
Stabbing ALLEGED


MI-Rosebush
Aug 20, 2007 Eight cats suffocated to death in freezer
Choking / Strangulation / Suffocation OPEN


MI-Flint
Aug 16, 2007 Dog thrown off second store balcony
Throwing CONVICTED
Patricia Beardsley

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MI-Olive Township
Aug 15, 2007 Birds raised for fighting - 250-300 roosters
Fighting ALLEGED
Charles DeSander Jr.

MI-Detroit
Aug 11, 2007 Dog-fighting - 3 dogs seized
Fighting OPEN


MI-Clayton Township
Aug 10, 2007 Animals found living in deplorable conditions
Hoarding ALLEGED


MI-Kalamazoo
Aug 4, 2007 Police horse kicked during white supremacy rally
Kicking/Stomping CONVICTED
Bruce Coyle Rader

MI-Detroit
Aug 1, 2007 Dog doused with gasoline, set on fire
Burning - Fire or Fireworks CONVICTED
John Delmar Fladger

MI-Gaylord
Jul 24, 2007 Hoarding - 19 animal seized, 14 more dead
Hoarding CONVICTED
Richard Blackmore

MI-Kalamazoo
Jul 13, 2007 Kitten set on fire, cut with glass, beaten
Mutilation/Torture, Beating, Burning - Fire or Fireworks OPEN


MI-Stronach Township
Jul 12, 2007 Dog found dead, 2 more sezied
Neglect / Abandonment ALLEGED


MI-Frederic
Jul 11, 2007 Animal feed and hay doused in gasoline
Poisoning CONVICTED
Brian Green

MI-Dearborn Heights
Jul 10, 2007 Two dogs die of dehydration, burn marks found
Neglect / Abandonment, Burning - Fire or Fireworks ALLEGED
man

MI-Livonia
Jun 18, 2007 Dog neglected, left for dead in tiny crate
Neglect / Abandonment OPEN


MI-Custer
Jun 16, 2007 Kitten’s mouth blown apart with firecracker
Burning - Fire or Fireworks OPEN


MI-Ypsilanti
Jun 15, 2007 Dog-fighting - 17 dogs seized
Fighting CONVICTED
Ricky Lee Lynch

MI-Ypsilanti Township
Jun 13, 2007 Dog-fighting
Fighting CONVICTED
Michael Alan Dalton

MI-Homestead Township
Jun 11, 2007 Hoarding - 60 cats abandoned in home
Neglect / Abandonment, Hoarding ALLEGED
Jane Bishoff
Todd Bukowiecki

MI-Quincy
Jun 4, 2007 8 horses, 3 colts seized due to neglect
Neglect / Abandonment ALLEGED
Lorrinda Whitney

MI-Clarkston
May 2007 Cat loses leg after being shot
Shooting OPEN


MI-Kentwood
Apr 30, 2007 Two dogs found dead, tethered to pole
Neglect / Abandonment OPEN


MI-Saint Charles
Apr 16, 2007 Dog and cat killed with antifreeze
Poisoning ALLEGED
Brandi L. Charvat

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MI-Olive Township
Aug 15, 2007 Birds raised for fighting - 250-300 roosters
Fighting ALLEGED
Charles DeSander Jr.

MI-Detroit
Aug 11, 2007 Dog-fighting - 3 dogs seized
Fighting OPEN


MI-Clayton Township
Aug 10, 2007 Animals found living in deplorable conditions
Hoarding ALLEGED


MI-Kalamazoo
Aug 4, 2007 Police horse kicked during white supremacy rally
Kicking/Stomping CONVICTED
Bruce Coyle Rader

MI-Detroit
Aug 1, 2007 Dog doused with gasoline, set on fire
Burning - Fire or Fireworks CONVICTED
John Delmar Fladger

MI-Gaylord
Jul 24, 2007 Hoarding - 19 animal seized, 14 more dead
Hoarding CONVICTED
Richard Blackmore

MI-Kalamazoo
Jul 13, 2007 Kitten set on fire, cut with glass, beaten
Mutilation/Torture, Beating, Burning - Fire or Fireworks OPEN


MI-Stronach Township
Jul 12, 2007 Dog found dead, 2 more sezied
Neglect / Abandonment ALLEGED


MI-Frederic
Jul 11, 2007 Animal feed and hay doused in gasoline
Poisoning CONVICTED
Brian Green

MI-Dearborn Heights
Jul 10, 2007 Two dogs die of dehydration, burn marks found
Neglect / Abandonment, Burning - Fire or Fireworks ALLEGED
man

MI-Livonia
Jun 18, 2007 Dog neglected, left for dead in tiny crate
Neglect / Abandonment OPEN


MI-Custer
Jun 16, 2007 Kitten’s mouth blown apart with firecracker
Burning - Fire or Fireworks OPEN


MI-Ypsilanti
Jun 15, 2007 Dog-fighting - 17 dogs seized
Fighting CONVICTED
Ricky Lee Lynch

MI-Ypsilanti Township
Jun 13, 2007 Dog-fighting
Fighting CONVICTED
Michael Alan Dalton

MI-Homestead Township
Jun 11, 2007 Hoarding - 60 cats abandoned in home
Neglect / Abandonment, Hoarding ALLEGED
Jane Bishoff
Todd Bukowiecki

MI-Quincy
Jun 4, 2007 8 horses, 3 colts seized due to neglect
Neglect / Abandonment ALLEGED
Lorrinda Whitney

MI-Clarkston
May 2007 Cat loses leg after being shot
Shooting OPEN


MI-Kentwood
Apr 30, 2007 Two dogs found dead, tethered to pole
Neglect / Abandonment OPEN


MI-Saint Charles
Apr 16, 2007 Dog and cat killed with antifreeze
Poisoning ALLEGED
Brandi L. Charvat

MI-Port Huron Township
Mar 25, 2007 Caged dog thrown out second story window
Drowning, Throwing ALLEGED
Daniel Dexter Darling

MI-Grass Lake Township
Mar 21, 2007 Horse neglect - 69 seized
Neglect / Abandonment ALLEGED
James Henderson Jr.
Matthew Mercier

MI-Imlay City
Mar 16, 2007 Dead animals, malnourished dogs seized
Hoarding ALLEGED
Andrew Mills
Clair Mills
Ellen Mills


MI-Inkster
Mar 10, 2007 Dog-fighting -
Fighting ALLEGED


MI-Benton Township
Mar 7, 2007 Cat bound with duct tape, left for dead
Neglect / Abandonment OPEN


MI-Lansing
Mar 2007 Dog-fighting - 8 dogs seized
Fighting ALLEGED
Delton D. Jones

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MI-Muskegon Heights
Mar 2007 Animals abandoned in home, three found dead
Neglect / Abandonment CONVICTED
Nancy Rose Bertoia

MI-Holland
Feb 28, 2007 Dog-fighting - two dogs dead in church dumpster
Fighting OPEN


MI-Lee
Feb 27, 2007 Hoarding 58 cats, 70 rabbits
Hoarding ALLEGED


MI-Deerfield
Feb 13, 2007 Malnourished dog left without food and water
Neglect / Abandonment ALLEGED


MI-Blissfield
Feb 8, 2007 Horse neglect, dog running at large
Neglect / Abandonment ALLEGED
Edward Dean Wegner

MI-Plymouth
Feb 8, 2007 Dead dog found frozen in cemetery
Neglect / Abandonment OPEN


MI-Macomb
Feb 4, 2007 Two children, three dogs stabbed to death
Stabbing NOT CHARGED
Jennifer Kukla

MI-Jackson
Feb 1, 2007 Pit bull found dead, frozen solid
Neglect / Abandonment NOT CHARGED


MI-Hickory Corners
Jan 29, 2007 Puppy mill/hoarding - 232 dogs
Neglect / Abandonment, Hoarding ALLEGED
John Jones
Suzette Jones

MI-Cheshire
Jan 26, 2007 Hoarding 66 cats and dogs
Hoarding NOT CHARGED
woman

MI-Pine Township
Jan 25, 2007 Dog shot
Shooting ALLEGED
man

MI-Pontiac
Jan 25, 2007 8 puppies abandoned in trash can
Neglect / Abandonment OPEN


MI-Sterling Heights
Jan 19, 2007 Caged dog starved to death
Neglect / Abandonment CONVICTED
Jason Kenneth Kraft

I-Roscommon
Jan 11, 2007 Dog severely emaciated
Neglect / Abandonment CONVICTED
Lawrence Edward Baumgart

MI-Port Huron
Jan 1, 2007 33 animals dead - 45 malnourished
Neglect / Abandonment ALLEGED
Female
Male

MI-Washington Township
Jan 1, 2007 Animals found starving, resorting to cannibalism
Neglect / Abandonment CONVICTED
Fred V. Jacklett Jr.
Laurie McConnell

MI-Lansing
Jan 2007 Dogs and cats neglected, 23 seized
Neglect / Abandonment CONVICTED
Teena Jones

MI-Clinton Township
Dec 30, 2006 Pit bull dragged behind vehicle
Vehicular ALLEGED
Carl Green King Jr.

MI-Lansing
Dec 19, 2006 Two dogs found dead, dog-fighting suspected
Fighting OPEN


MI-Benton Heights
Dec 16, 2006 Attempted dog drowning in wading pool
Drowning ALLEGED
juvenile male
Anthony Bell

MI-Roosevelt Park
Dec 3, 2006 Dog stabbed to death during domestic dispute
Stabbing ACQUITTED
Christian Harold Boyd Sr.

MI-Lapeer
Nov 27, 2006 Dog shot during robbery
Shooting ALLEGED
Dwayne A. Rocca
David Taylor

MI-Niles
Nov 24, 2006 Dog choked during domestic dispute
Choking / Strangulation / Suffocation DISMISSED (CONDITIONAL)
Michael Larry Comstock

MI-Kalamazoo
Nov 19, 2006 Pregnant dog starved to death
Neglect / Abandonment ALLEGED


MI-Sanford
Nov 18, 2006 Dog poisoned with antifreeze
Poisoning OPEN

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Location / Date Title Name(s)

MI-Battle Creek
Nov 15, 2006 Dog neglect, fighting suspected - 19 seized
Neglect / Abandonment, Fighting CONVICTED
James Leonard Kellay

MI-Grand Rapids
Nov 14, 2006 Dog given cocaine
Poisoning CONVICTED
man

MI-Lansing
Nov 9, 2006 Dog-fighting - 18 dogs seized, one found dead
Neglect / Abandonment, Fighting CONVICTED
Anthonette Lee Antes
Corey Devon Henry

MI-Flint
Nov 1, 2006 Dog-fighting - 4 dogs seized
Fighting ALLEGED
Greg L. Cherny
Tessa Cherny
Isaac L. Crawford


MI-Benton
Nov 2006 Dog abandoned in home, left without food, water
Neglect / Abandonment ALLEGED


MI-Benton
Nov 2006 Dog thrown from moving vehicle during argument
Throwing ALLEGED


MI-Battle Creek
Oct 25, 2006 Dog stolen for dog-fighting
Fighting, Theft ALLEGED
juvenile male
juvenile male

MI-Ionia
Oct 22, 2006 Dog shot in the heart, lung with arrow
Shooting OPEN


MI-Freeland
Oct 20, 2006 Sex with dead dog, assaulting an ACO
Bestiality CONVICTED
Ronald Kuch

MI-Adrian
Oct 17, 2006 Cat shot, run over
Shooting, Vehicular CONVICTED
Paul Dunson

MI-Cadillac
Oct 15, 2006 Animals die in home
Neglect / Abandonment CONVICTED
Gaillyn Cornell

MI-Clyde
Sep 9, 2006 Horses killed during arson spree
Burning - Fire or Fireworks ALLEGED
John Jay Searles

MI-Corunna
Sep 8, 2006 Hoarding 24 cats, dogs and birds
Hoarding NOT CHARGED


MI-Grawn
Aug 31, 2006 Two blue herons killed
Unlawful Trapping/Hunting ALLEGED
Robert Joe Geiger

MI-Ypsilanti
Aug 29, 2006 Reptiles seized from school classroom
Neglect / Abandonment NOT CHARGED


MI-Forest Township
Aug 19, 2006 Hoarding 15 dogs
Hoarding NOT CHARGED
woman

MI-Grand Haven
Aug 11, 2006 Cat shot, mutilated, spray-painted
Mutilation/Torture, Shooting, Burning - Caustic Substance NOT CHARGED


MI-Detroit
Aug 9, 2006 Dog sexually assaulted
Bestiality CONVICTED
Delbert John Holliday

MI-Flint
Aug 6, 2006 Dog-fighting - 12 dogs seized
Fighting CONVICTED
Rodney L. Knapp
Nigel L. Swain

MI-Battle Creek
Aug 2, 2006 Hoarding 70 animals
Hoarding ACQUITTED
Cynthia Wilkinson
John Wilkinson

MI-Pontiac
Jul 31, 2006 Dog doused with accelerant, set on fire
Burning - Fire or Fireworks OPEN


MI-Bad Axe
Jul 31, 2006 Dog tied to SUV, dragged
Vehicular ACQUITTED
James M. Leppek

MI-Pontiac
Jul 24, 2006 Dog-fighting
Fighting CONVICTED
Keith O. Jackson Sr.

MI-Garden Corners
Jul 1, 2006 Bald eagle painted, feathers cut off
Other, Unlawful Trade/Smuggling OPEN


MI-Highland
Jul 1, 2006 Birds stolen, feathers pulled out
Unclassified, Theft ALLEGED
Mikhail R. Moesta
Michael J. Muscatello

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MI-Waterloo
Jul 2006 Muskrat intentionally run over
Vehicular CONVICTED
James Carroll

MI-Milford
Jun 24, 2006 Cat shot resulting in leg amputation
Shooting OPEN


MI-Jackson
Jun 18, 2006 Dog-fighting - 5 dogs seized
Neglect / Abandonment, Fighting CONVICTED
Leonard Jeffries

MI-Flint
Jun 15, 2006 Dog stolen, set on fire
Burning - Fire or Fireworks, Theft OPEN


MI-Grand Rapids
Jun 5, 2006 Alligator beaten with hammer, abandoned
Neglect / Abandonment, Beating CONVICTED
Brian Scott DeRooy

MI-Grand Haven
Jun 2, 2006 Cat shot with pellet gun
Shooting OPEN


MI-Wayland
May 20, 2006 Cat shot, meth lab discovered
Shooting ALLEGED
man

MI-Grosse Pointe Farms
May 11, 2006 50 animals removed from home
Hoarding CONVICTED
Sylvia Gray

MI-Niles
May 9, 2006 Terrier puppy thrown from bridge
Throwing OPEN


MI-Portage
May 6, 2006 Dog beaten with stick
Beating CONVICTED
Ashley Jeanne Gennara

MI-Lansing
May 4, 2006 Dog-fighting - 3 dogs seized, 4 found dead
Fighting CONVICTED
Kian Malik Miller

MI-Niles
May 2006 Puppy thrown off bridge
Beating, Throwing CONVICTED
Joshua Scott Hamman

MI-Flint
Apr 19, 2006 Cat hung on fence, attacked by dogs
Mutilation/Torture ALLEGED


MI-Lapeer
Apr 17, 2006 Hoarding - 26 cats, 7 reptiles, rabbits, ducks
Hoarding NOT CHARGED


MI-Hamilton Township
Apr 7, 2006 17 horses severely neglected
Neglect / Abandonment ALLEGED
Kelly King

MI-Ann Arbor
Mar 25, 2006 Dog’s carcass found tied with rope
Shooting OPEN


MI-Washtenaw
Mar 24, 2006 2 foxes found skinned
Mutilation/Torture OPEN


MI-Ann Arbor
Mar 24, 2006 2 dogs found decapitated
Mutilation/Torture OPEN


MI-Superior Township
Mar 22, 2006 Dog found decapitated
Mutilation/Torture OPEN


MI-Adrian
Mar 18, 2006 Cow and horse neglect
Neglect / Abandonment ALLEGED
Ralph Edward G
Mar 16, 2006 Dog bound with duct tape, decapitated
Mutilation/Torture OPEN


MI-Adrian
Mar 14, 2006 Hoarding - 27 dogs, more found dead
Hoarding OPEN


MI-Niles
Mar 9, 2006 Dog shot to death
Shooting ALLEGED
Fred Crawford Pearson

MI-Southfield
Mar 8, 2006 Dog severely matted, tied to shelter doorknob
Neglect / Abandonment OPEN


MI-Linden
Mar 5, 2006 Cats tied to trees, used as coyote bait
Mutilation/Torture, Unlawful Trapping/Hunting CONVICTED
Douglas Holtslander

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1. piss anyone off- well, when we go into an area and do things that the locals don't like (ie killing civilians) we breed more terrorists

2. how are we fighting for OUR rights in Iraq?

3. How are we protecting what is OURS, in Iraq?

sounds like you're trumpeting for the Revolutionary War or something.
Excuse me the war on terror is more than just Iraq. And it has screwed with our rights, phone taps, passports required to come back from Canada or anywhere else as far as that goes, buying bullets for hunting or target practice, buying fertilizer and a shitload more stuff that was unheard of just a few years ago.
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