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Old February 28th, 2008, 09:03 AM   #21
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Are you attaching your cable to a KNOWN secure tow point on the stuck vehicle? You are standing outside, in between the two vehicles, correct? Anything draped over the cable? Sounds to me like you are on your way to losing a leg, arm or your head.
Seriously, learn how to do recovery the right way. Hands on, in person with an experienced person or group. Reading about recovery on the net and trying it out on a stranger is only going to get you hurt, killed or sued.
Yes, I know the safety part I wasn't asking about that, I did have a jacket over the cable I was off to the side and on the trailer hitch was a tow ring.
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Old February 28th, 2008, 09:06 AM   #22
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Isn't a winch for self recovery?
I think so, I just can't help but to think if it was my wife what would I want someone else to do. I think it's human nature to want to help. You would think we'd be talking about this since typically the opposite is true. If people see someone trying to change a tire or stuck, more often then not they think to themselve, "suck to be you".
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Old February 28th, 2008, 09:18 AM   #23
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Isn't a winch for self recovery?
No.
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Old February 28th, 2008, 09:22 AM   #24
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Hey C. Rog. If you had been with us last Saturday, you would have learned ALOT about winching. And the correct way to change a Ujoint.
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Old February 28th, 2008, 09:36 AM   #25
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Hey C. Rog. If you had been with us last Saturday, you would have learned ALOT about winching. And the correct way to change a Ujoint.
Yes, but dispite repeated attempts at asking nicely, calling him a sally and even threatening to have my kid beat up his kid I could not get him to come out
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Old February 28th, 2008, 09:46 AM   #26
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try reverse then :tonka:
This definitely works.





j/k - Agreed about letting Roadside assistance companies do their job. Use your winch for recreation, that's what it was purchased for right. You didn't think that thing was going to get you some strange did you?
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Old February 28th, 2008, 10:22 AM   #27
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when ever i pull someone out of a ditch i just wrap a strap around them and put it in 4 wheel low mash the gas and watch them shit as i rip them out
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Old February 28th, 2008, 11:21 AM   #28
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You don't know what you are doing so quit trying.

Otherwise leave the car running in neutral, 4wd engaged, foot on the brake, foot on the gas, hand on the wheel, hand on the controller, start winching.

You should try to keep your RPMS around 1500 to maintain a good charge on the battery.
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Old February 28th, 2008, 11:28 AM   #29
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OK, since everyone else seems hung up on criticizing you rather than answering your question:

If its rolling the tires, all 4 of them, then you might not be in a very low gear. Your tires are generating enough traction to turn the engine over, and overcome the parking brake.

What gear do you leave it in, in this situation? The lower the gear, the more the engine will have to spin, so the more resistance there would be.

If you wanted to use it like a 'park' with the engine off, and really have the maximum holding power with the engine, then put it 4-low, 1st gear, and set the parking brake.


Note: I'm not discussing the topic at all about proper winching technique, or whether you should be pulling people out, simply answering your question.
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Old February 28th, 2008, 11:32 AM   #30
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Make or buy a couple of wheel chocks.



Really one of those safety devices everyone should have. Like a fire extinguisher.
I had a couple of sweet ones that were spiked on the bottom and curved so you wouldn't get pulled over them. I bought some rubber ones, not good for winching.

This is a good post because it reminded me to make up another pair.

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I think so, I just can't help but to think if it was my wife what would I want someone else to do. I think it's human nature to want to help. You would think we'd be talking about this since typically the opposite is true. If people see someone trying to change a tire or stuck, more often then not they think to themselve, "suck to be you".
I would hope that my wife would have the common sense to not let some random redneck with a Jeep try to tow her out. :tonka:

In all seriousness though, you can do a lot of damage to a vehicle if you attempt to recover it improperly. Most "soccer moms" in distress are driving flimsy unibody vans or cars too. I'd steer clear.
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Old February 28th, 2008, 11:47 AM   #32
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Hey C. Rog. If you had been with us last Saturday, you would have learned ALOT about winching. And the correct way to change a Ujoint.
but it was cold out....
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Old February 28th, 2008, 11:50 AM   #33
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OK, since everyone else seems hung up on criticizing you rather than answering your question:

If its rolling the tires, all 4 of them, then you might not be in a very low gear. Your tires are generating enough traction to turn the engine over, and overcome the parking brake.

What gear do you leave it in, in this situation? The lower the gear, the more the engine will have to spin, so the more resistance there would be.

If you wanted to use it like a 'park' with the engine off, and really have the maximum holding power with the engine, then put it 4-low, 1st gear, and set the parking brake.


Note: I'm not discussing the topic at all about proper winching technique, or whether you should be pulling people out, simply answering your question.
Thank you, notes taken!
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Old February 28th, 2008, 12:00 PM   #34
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I would hope that my wife would have the common sense to not let some random redneck with a Jeep try to tow her out. :tonka:
So, everyone with a Jeep is a redneck?

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when ever i pull someone out of a ditch i just wrap a strap around them and put it in 4 wheel low mash the gas and watch them shit as i rip them out
x2 a tow strap and low lock works for me.

though i did knock out my buddies fog light when he pulled me out.
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So, everyone with a Jeep is a redneck?

I use the term lovingly.
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Let's see. You hook up to car stuck in the ditch. You hit the winch and something on their car breaks. Good luck with the lawsuit considering you aren't licensed, bonded, or insured to do recovery work.
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Let's see. You hook up to car stuck in the ditch. You hit the winch and something on their car breaks. Good luck with the lawsuit considering you aren't licensed, bonded, or insured to do recovery work.
Come on. Good idea or not, we have all tried to help a stuck vehicle at some point. It is human nature.
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Let's see. You hook up to car stuck in the ditch. You hit the winch and something on their car breaks. Good luck with the lawsuit considering you aren't licensed, bonded, or insured to do recovery work.
and they'll probably blame you for the damage done to their car while entering the ditch too!

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Come on. Good idea or not, we have all tried to help a stuck vehicle at some point. It is human nature.
I might help a buddy (who I know won't sue me) with a beater, but that's about it. And, getting back the to the comment I made earlier, I definitely would not want someone attempting to winch my wife's car. I'm sure her heroin would have the best of intentions...just not the right equipment or skills.

If you want to help, offer your phone. That's all the help that any amateur is equipped to offer.
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I hate when people use anecdotal evidence, so I've been avoiding going there but I do have a relevant story that happened to my wife several years ago which has affected the way I think about this discussion. Back in college my wife drove a Ford Escort. She ditched it. In a matter of minutes, some guy with a big F-250 pulled up thinking he'd help out the poor damsel in distress. He proceeded to hook a recovery strap up to her bumper (remember this is an escort), and "jerk" her out. She was a poor college student at the time, not knowing any better she agreed to let this guy "help" her out. To make a long story short, the guy yanked the bumper off the car and tweaked the unibody. After writing a $750 check to the frame shop (nevermind the messed up bumper) her car would track somewhat straight again. She didn't sue or anything, but...she was stuck with a $750 bill and a messed up bumper rather than the $50 that should've been spent paying someone who knew what they were doing. If that incident had been turned into the insurance company, the car would've been totalled and they would've gone after whoever did the "towing." This is why wreckers are bonded and have insurance. Unexpected things happen when recovering vehicles. Even the pros will damage cars occasionally, but at least they have the financial backing to fix their mistakes.
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