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Old February 26th, 2008, 09:58 AM   #41
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GM is the only of the big 3 really doing things on a global scale. Our current program is working with GM design centers on 4 continents. Saab out of trollhaaten Sweden, Opel in russelsheim Germany, Buick in Shanghai China, Holden in Melbourne Australia, and Chevy/Cadillac out of Warren.

The industry is a different place than it used to be. Aw, but what do I know, I only make gages, right...


I think their latest move with Saturn is a good thing, pushing it back to where it was intended, but with a full scale lineup.

Opel is a basic German car, they are basic and cheap. But, being designed in Germany, they still have a level of refinement and feature set that is different from American cars. So bringing here, slapping a Saturn badge on it, its fairly easy. Not exactly a new strategy - the old Saturn LS and the Cadillac Catera were modified Opels.
Tell me about it. We are currently trying to quote new business with this "global" design. Finding manpower to go to these locations out to be fun!
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IIRC, GM is revamping their badges to have less overlap/shared platforms. Pontiac is going all car, no more crossovers or vans. I also think they want all dealers to be Pontiac/Buick/GMC instead of individuals with regards to those three makes.

The global thing is here to stay. At least they are incorporating some European design/tech into the new cars (or Australian, in the case of the zeta (?), G8, etc). Imagine if Ford brought their Euro lineup here?
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Old February 26th, 2008, 10:37 AM   #43
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IIRC, GM is revamping their badges to have less overlap/shared platforms. Pontiac is going all car, no more crossovers or vans. I also think they want all dealers to be Pontiac/Buick/GMC instead of individuals with regards to those three makes.

The global thing is here to stay. At least they are incorporating some European design/tech into the new cars (or Australian, in the case of the zeta (?), G8, etc). Imagine if Ford brought their Euro lineup here?
Pontiac will not be all car.

Holden is doing design work on Zeta because they have existing V8/RWD experience.
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Old February 26th, 2008, 11:15 PM   #44
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This is part of the article I read it from, just regurgitating:

DETROIT -- After debating Pontiac's viability this year, General Motors' leadership plans to revive the brand's heritage of performance with a product lineup of exclusively rear-wheel-drive cars.

There would be no trucks and - after the next generation of vehicles - no front-wheel-drive cars either.
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Holden is doing design work on Zeta because they have existing V8/RWD experience.
, and GM doesn't
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Old February 26th, 2008, 11:20 PM   #46
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This is part of the article I read it from, just regurgitating:

DETROIT -- After debating Pontiac's viability this year, General Motors' leadership plans to revive the brand's heritage of performance with a product lineup of exclusively rear-wheel-drive cars.

There would be no trucks and - after the next generation of vehicles - no front-wheel-drive cars either.
they've said that from the early 90's


remember Pontiac was once the bmw fighting car

Pontiac builds excrement!!!!
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, and GM doesn't
no Roger Smith threw out that stuff in the 80's shortly after he brain washed the world into believing you had to have FWD or else you would die
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