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Old February 19th, 2008, 06:50 PM   #1
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Default you ron paul fans give up yet?

or you still hoping?

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Old February 19th, 2008, 07:57 PM   #2
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Old February 19th, 2008, 08:16 PM   #3
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He will likely have a better showing at the national convention than you think. Even though he probably won't get the nomination he has awoke millions. At this point he is the only real conservative running. McCain, Clinton, or Obama there isn't even a choice, it is socialism any way you go.

And if you havn't heard
Social Security Change For 2008
The United States Senate voted to extend Social Security Benefits to Illegal Aliens beginning in 2008. The following are the senators who voted to give illegal aliens Social Security benefits. They are grouped by home state. If a state is not listed, there was no voting representative.
Alaska : Stevens (R)
Arizona : McCain (R)
Arkansas : Lincoln (D) Pryor (D)
California : Boxer (D) Feinstein (D)
Colorado : Salazar (D)
Connecticut : Dodd (D) Lieberman (D)
Delaware : Biden (D) Carper (D)
Florida : Martinez (R)
Hawaii : Akaka (D) Inouye (D)
Illinois : Durbin (D) Obama (D)
Indiana : Bayh (D) Lugar (R)
Iowa : Harkin (D)
Kansas : Brownback (R)
Louisiana : Landrieu (D)
Maryland : Mikulski (D) Sarbanes (D)
Massachusetts : Kennedy (D) Kerry (D)
Montana : Baucus (D)
Nebraska : Hagel (R)
Nevada : Reid (D)
New Jersey : Lautenberg (D) Menendez (D)
New Mexico : Bingaman (D)
New York : Clinton (D) Schumer (D)
North Dakota : Dorgan (D)
Ohio : DeWine (R) Voinovich(R)
Oregon : Wyden (D)
Pennsylvania : Specter (R)
Rhode Island : Chafee (R) Reed (D)
South Carolina : Graham (R)
South Dakota : Johnson (D)
Vermont : Jeffords (I) Leahy (D)
Washington : Cantwell (D) Murray (D)
West Virginia : Rockefeller (D), by Not Voting
Wisconsin : Feingold (D) Kohl (D)

surprised Michigans 2 clowns didn't vote for this junk.

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Old February 19th, 2008, 08:45 PM   #4
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I hope he doesnt run as an independent, it would be bad news.
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Old February 19th, 2008, 09:09 PM   #5
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i hope he does.
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Old February 19th, 2008, 09:15 PM   #6
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He will likely have a better showing at the national convention than you think. Even though he probably won't get the nomination he has awoke millions. At this point he is the only real conservative running. McCain, Clinton, or Obama there isn't even a choice, it is socialism any way you go.

And if you havn't heard
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The United States Senate voted to extend Social Security Benefits to Illegal Aliens beginning in 2008. The following are the senators who voted to give illegal aliens Social Security benefits. They are grouped by home state. If a state is not listed, there was no voting representative.
Alaska : Stevens (R)
Arizona : McCain (R)
You have got to be shitting me??

I sincerely hope RP wins, I'll be voting for him, but I doubt he will. Either way, whoever gets into office needs to implement some serious changes or this country is doomed
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Old February 19th, 2008, 10:03 PM   #7
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He'll never get nominated, and I'm pretty sure even he knowns it. I think he's just staying in to keep what little national spotlight he has to keep sending the "smaller government" message.
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Old February 20th, 2008, 06:59 AM   #8
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Anybody ever read more on what was voted on?
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Old February 20th, 2008, 07:38 AM   #9
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Anybody ever read more on what was voted on?
Actually, I tried to after I replied, as you can only take what you read on here with a grain of salt.....google search results in nothing on the issue.....link by chance?
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http://www.factcheck.org/article447.html
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Old February 20th, 2008, 08:11 AM   #11
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I just found out last night Ron Paul is the brother of the Pastor of the church I attended for 15 years in Roseville, MI.....small world......He had my vote regardless.
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My bad. I addmit I didn't check on this info before I posted it. Snopes hads some info about it too. He's still a socialist. If you read into "building a North American Community" at the CFR website on page 27 of the report (not 27 of the pdf file) under the section of recomandations for what we should do now. it says "Implement the Social Security Totalization Agreement
negotiated between the United States andMexico. This agreement
would recognize payroll contributions to each other’s systems,
thus preventing double taxation"
Go to the site http://http://www.cfr.org/
and search spp. Read the recomandations. This is the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.

John McCain is a member of the CFR.
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My bad. I addmit I didn't check on this info before I posted it. Snopes hads some info about it too. He's still a socialist. If you read into "building a North American Community" at the CFR website on page 27 of the report (not 27 of the pdf file) under the section of recomandations for what we should do now. it says "Implement the Social Security Totalization Agreement
negotiated between the United States andMexico. This agreement
would recognize payroll contributions to each otherís systems,
thus preventing double taxation"
Go to the site http://http://www.cfr.org/
and search spp. Read the recomandations. This is the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.

John McCain is a member of the CFR.
Go here to see which other "socialists" are members. Some real commies... like Newt Gingrich, Condoleezza Rice, Fred Thompson, and the worst of the bunch... Dick Cheney. Whats a bunch of pinko-commie-socialist.
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Old February 20th, 2008, 09:46 PM   #14
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You got it... Right along with several corporate giants, big time bankers, ex presidents, The designers of the Federal Reserve and their decendance, and the talking heads that feed us the propaganda through the screen in the living room.

The tinfoil on my hat is thick!!!
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Old February 21st, 2008, 06:19 AM   #15
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The tinfoil on my hat is thick!!!
I loled.
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Ron Paul has got my vote if he runs. I guess I'll vote McCain if RP doesn't run. I couldn't live with myself if I voted for Horsellary or Obomba.
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I will never give up on him and will never give up on the position, the core of which is to follow the constitution, what a concept!!!!! Go ahead and vote for the 100 year war guy or the Dem govt program king and queen!!! They will drive the final nails into the coffin... They will finish destroying the county. Those that vote for them are
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Old February 27th, 2008, 05:00 PM   #18
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I will never give up on him and will never give up on the position, the core of which is to follow the constitution, what a concept!!!!! Go ahead and vote for the 100 year war guy or the Dem govt program king and queen!!! They will drive the final nails into the coffin... They will finish destroying the county. Those that vote for them are


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Rat me out, go ahead... I'm proud of who I am and I stand up for what I believe in !!!
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