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Old March 24th, 2006, 07:52 PM   #1
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Since i just had a kid, I'm putting off the idea of a lift for a couple of years.

So, I'm gonna put a decent sounding system in it. Nothing extravagant, just something that sounds good. this is what I'm going to do.

Pioneer deh-7700 mp head unit. It has built in crossovers, and a ton of higher end features. It's fairly decent for about $220.
5 1/4's in the dash
6 1/2's in the bar. this stuff will run off of the head unit.

I currently have a 8" 150 watt bazooka in my TJ. I want to get rid of that and put a 10" sub in it's place. More secure than a bazooka, and not as fragile. The tube isn't that great anyway.

this is where I need a hand. I can build the box with no problem. I haven't had a system in any car since 1990, and things have changed so much since then that I really don't understand any of it. I don't want BIG bass, but something that sounds kick-ass, at cruising speed.

I need to know what sub to get, and what brand and size of amp to get. I'm figuring $200 to $250 for the sub and amp (?), at least I figure I can score something decent for that.

I'm welcome to any suggestions. thanks
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Old March 25th, 2006, 06:08 PM   #2
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well good luck getting really good sond for that price.... but heres a good way to go.

I would say a directed amp... get a class D, its cheaper for more power, their 250d is a great little amp and can push 2 10's with ease.

As far as the sub goes get something that has a high spl and is know for its sq ratings. build the box sealed and close to the smallest recommended size. This will provide a very tight punchy bass. Also run qualitty wires and a cap would keep the bass cleaner but isn't needed.

Any other questions just let me know
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well good luck getting really good sond for that price.... but heres a good way to go.

I would say a directed amp... get a class D, its cheaper for more power, their 250d is a great little amp and can push 2 10's with ease.

As far as the sub goes get something that has a high spl and is know for its sq ratings. build the box sealed and close to the smallest recommended size. This will provide a very tight punchy bass. Also run qualitty wires and a cap would keep the bass cleaner but isn't needed.

Any other questions just let me know
I've found some decent amps on e-bay, and at this point, I think I'm going to stay within the $250 no problem, at least it appears that way before all the incidentals.

I'm not going for big bass. I just want something that sounds real good.

I will get back with you once I start throwing this stuff together
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In my ranger i've got two pairs of boston accustics 5x8's run with a four channel amp and a pioneer head unit (a 7 series but it's like a year old....dont remember the model #) and it sounds great at cruising speed. BUT, i've also got a wind tight rig and dont listen to any rap really....but they've got plenty of bass for a metal/rock song
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the head unit I'm getting, a pioneer deh-p4800mp, has built in crossovers, so that's a bonus.

Even better, the amplified bazooka I have, an 8" w/150 watt amp, can actually handle 350w rms, and 500w peak, according to sas-bazooka. So I get an amp for the bazooka, and bypass the built in amp on it.

with the money left over, I'll get a couple of Clarion 100wx4 amps I found on e-bay, new, for $200. that'll power the 4 speakers, and the sub, 400Wx1.

Pioneer 5.25 speakers, pair for $30 on ebay. for the dash
Dash brackets, $25 on ebay.
Pioneer head unit. $195 installed. a local shop that put a unit in our Taurus.
2-Clarion 100Wx4 amps $200. One will be 400x1 for the tube.

so for $500, I should have something decent, or at least 10x better than what's in there.

Not the first thing I wanted to do this year, but with the new kid, a lift isn't in the picture. but, I'll take what I can get.
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Old March 31st, 2006, 07:38 AM   #6
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Sounds like a good plan, but I would look into a Alpine head unit. I'm on my 7th or 8th years on my current radio.
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Personally I would stay away from having 2 amps in a wrangler, spend more money and get a radio that supplies more power than 22 watss rms to run your highs and mids. And get one amp to run you sub. You can brigde the amp like that and run it to a 400w X 1, but Im sure that is going to be at like 2 ohms, which will draw some power. Which normally isnt an issue but once you turn offroad lights on and use you winch a second battery better be onboard, not a capacitor, a battery! I would go with a DVC - dual voice coil and run that on a 4 channel amp. The bigger you go the deeper the bass so a 10 is kinda what you want.
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Get an Alpine deck with Time Correction. This way you can add a delay to the soundbar speakers so it moves your imaging to the front; Since the sound will take longer to reach your ears from the rear speakers. Your going to spend about $300 or so on it.

As far as a sub goes.. it's a Jeep it going to get rained on, covered in mud, maybe stolen.... Keep it around $100 so you don't cry to hard when any of the above happen. I like the JL audio 10W0...

Same thing goes with the amps... rain, mud etc.... Go used, and go OLD. 10+ years ago you could get a dang good amp for the kind of money you would get a peice of crap for today. I have a Rockford Punch 75 that pounds my single 10" JL pretty hard... they sell for about $100 used on eBay.

If you want to hear the speakers with the top down on the highway... you need to have an amp. Look for an older Alpine with at least 35 watt's RMS per channel.


That should give you a good system, on the cheap, that performs just fine. With a good deck you can tweak the sound how you like it, and with a cheap sub and used amps your not going to cry when something gets ruined.
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I had the head unit installed. I got a pioneer p4800. It has built in x-overs, 3 rca outputs, etc. I think it's pretty nice, especially for a little over 2 bills.

I put new 5.25's in the dash and soundbar, and left the bazooka in it, but ran rca's to it, and got rid of the speaker level signal going to it.

The sound, at least to me, is pretty amazing compared to the stock radio, a lot clearer and a lot louder. The bazooka is a 150 watt deal, and is about twice as loud as before, since it now has a clean signal going to it. After tweaking all the settings on the unit, the sound is right where I want it.

So, I'm not going to add any amps, subs or anything else. If I turn it up about 3/4 of the way, it's already too loud for me, so I'll leave it for now.

thanks for all the good advice.
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