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Old March 24th, 2006, 01:51 AM   #81
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Wow Stan, unfucking believable how he left YOUR house...if you need a hand with the clean up call me!!!
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Old March 24th, 2006, 02:10 AM   #82
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anybody got a picture of this guy?
I hzve a mental picture I am one of the fucks with a picture memory I met him once and will never forget met him the same day I met Tonka, Shift, Saurian , Bdr, Mschaffer, Sonicjay, Jmiesaan, Jemery, Petalmel, Harley, Paz, Barb, and Rocky there are pics I am sure people may rember Eric seemed O.K to me but he didnt leve a fuzzy feeling like everyone I listed it sucks he fucked Stan butthere is nothing we can do but help Stan clean up the mess and hope he doesn't screw anyone else
I am amased at myself thinking rationally tonight but I imagine that is just me maturing without realising it.
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Old March 24th, 2006, 02:45 AM   #83
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that just sucks how so called friend left your place and he turns around and gives youa swift
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Old March 24th, 2006, 07:18 AM   #84
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Saurian, perhaps his mom did beat him up, perhaps worse things happened to him in his life, but people DO overcome these things. No matter how bad or ugly it was, there are people who have gone through the same thing and pushed through it and over came it.

If he can't get over the stuff that happened to him in his past, then he needs to get professional help. If I were you, as his friend, I'd push him into getting it. United Way for one, offers free counseling to those who cannot pay.

There is no excuse for leaving the house the way he did.
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Old March 24th, 2006, 07:46 AM   #85
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I am not at all debating any of these facts... The house is horrid. He did leave it that way. That's the black and white of it, and nothing's gonna change that...

I'm not at all defending what happened here; to do so would be something to the effect of...

Eric's my friend, and you're all assholes for ragging on him, Gypsies, gypsies did it, they abducted his children into the night, tranked him, and trashed the house, mailed him to Istanbul in a crate so it would all be blamed on him, how dare you all come down on him!

which, of course, I did not do.
WERE ALL ASSHOLES? for ragging on a piece of shit that YOU won't
live in YOUR house. Yes Eric is nice in person, has one hell of a front......personal issues have nothing to do with that. I was beaten as a kid, I was living in a garage at 16 1/2 because I was asked to leave. Those issues were MY fault for a being a dirtass as a kid. I grew up learned the leason in life, well maybe lol... Anyways He chooses to be the way he is... meds no meds, and if he can't deal with it. Then it is UP to YOU to get him help, and pay for it if you are the TRUE friend you say you are. But NO you are cruising arouind in your jeep cuz you can't sleep. You are a TRUE friend to ERIC , but the only one so far that hasn't offered to help... SO fukc OFF with the don't pick on us.... people have opened there arms up to the likes of people like him, and get SHIT ON!!!!! I know that there is going to be a lot less help going on because of this.... HOW DARE I COME DOWN ON HIM??? are you kidding me, FUCKING RATS have more respect for themselves, and others.
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Old March 24th, 2006, 08:19 AM   #86
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WERE ALL ASSHOLES? for ragging on a piece of shit that YOU won't
live in YOUR house. Yes Eric is nice in person, has one hell of a front......personal issues have nothing to do with that. I was beaten as a kid, I was living in a garage at 16 1/2 because I was asked to leave. Those issues were MY fault for a being a dirtass as a kid. I grew up learned the leason in life, well maybe lol... Anyways He chooses to be the way he is... meds no meds, and if he can't deal with it. Then it is UP to YOU to get him help, and pay for it if you are the TRUE friend you say you are. But NO you are cruising arouind in your jeep cuz you can't sleep. You are a TRUE friend to ERIC , but the only one so far that hasn't offered to help... SO fukc OFF with the don't pick on us.... people have opened there arms up to the likes of people like him, and get SHIT ON!!!!! I know that there is going to be a lot less help going on because of this.... HOW DARE I COME DOWN ON HIM??? are you kidding me, FUCKING RATS have more respect for themselves, and others.
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Alrighty Then. I think the first issue at hand is not bitching about some derilect, but getting this house in order. Don't just throw his things out. Attemps to contact Eric whoever he is and ask him about his belongings. If you just toss his shit to the curb, he can come back and claim damages and file a lawsuit. ANYONE can file a lawsuit if they have half a brain, $35.00, and the gas to get to that counties Circuit Court to file paperwork. You don't need that headache. If you contact him and he doesn't want it or you have made "Reasonable Attempts" (Document how and the times) to contact this Eric, then we cna all pitch his stuff. Otherwise he can claim that he "Planed" on returning for his belongings before they were disposed of. As far as the mail opening, that is a federal offense. You most likely won't be able to prove it was him though, short of him admitting it. I'm sorry to be posting this, just trying to be the voice of reason.

Stan it sounds like your a real nice guy and you got screwed real bad. FOr that I am sorry. Maybe you should organize a M&G to help clean up that mess. Don't go about it yourself, there's plenty of volunteers here including myself that are willing to help you out. Just make it on a weekend please.
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Alrighty Then. I think the first issue at hand is not bitching about some derilect, but getting this house in order. Don't just throw his things out. Attemps to contact Eric whoever he is and ask him about his belongings. If you just toss his shit to the curb, he can come back and claim damages and file a lawsuit. ANYONE can file a lawsuit if they have half a brain, $35.00, and the gas to get to that counties Circuit Court to file paperwork. You don't need that headache. If you contact him and he doesn't want it or you have made "Reasonable Attempts" (Document how and the times) to contact this Eric, then we cna all pitch his stuff. Otherwise he can claim that he "Planed" on returning for his belongings before they were disposed of. As far as the mail opening, that is a federal offense. You most likely won't be able to prove it was him though, short of him admitting it. I'm sorry to be posting this, just trying to be the voice of reason.

Stan it sounds like your a real nice guy and you got screwed real bad. FOr that I am sorry. Maybe you should organize a M&G to help clean up that mess. Don't go about it yourself, there's plenty of volunteers here including myself that are willing to help you out. Just make it on a weekend please.
This is why I asked for hios address, in the first place......
I want to deliver his belongings to his house... NOT his parents to let them deal with the junk.

I don't care if he is home or not. I am NOT out to beat his ass.... I just want to deliver what is his. So something like this Won't go down. Because he is twisted enough to say it is a sentimental value, and sue for ton's worth jack.

I have access to dump trailers and trucks... So it would be a quick droppoff. Stan has enought to worry about let alone clean the place.. let alone shell out another $500- $1000 in dump fees.
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Old March 24th, 2006, 08:58 AM   #89
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Alrighty Then. I think the first issue at hand is not bitching about some derilect, but getting this house in order. Don't just throw his things out. Attemps to contact Eric whoever he is and ask him about his belongings. If you just toss his shit to the curb, he can come back and claim damages and file a lawsuit. ANYONE can file a lawsuit if they have half a brain, $35.00, and the gas to get to that counties Circuit Court to file paperwork. You don't need that headache. If you contact him and he doesn't want it or you have made "Reasonable Attempts" (Document how and the times) to contact this Eric, then we cna all pitch his stuff. Otherwise he can claim that he "Planed" on returning for his belongings before they were disposed of. As far as the mail opening, that is a federal offense. You most likely won't be able to prove it was him though, short of him admitting it. I'm sorry to be posting this, just trying to be the voice of reason.

Stan it sounds like your a real nice guy and you got screwed real bad. FOr that I am sorry. Maybe you should organize a M&G to help clean up that mess. Don't go about it yourself, there's plenty of volunteers here including myself that are willing to help you out. Just make it on a weekend please.


I appreciate the advice.

But I have been at this for many years. I have made attempts to contact him and he has not responded.
He has vacated the house and I can prove it.
Him filing a complaint on me is pointless.
Me filing on him is much more likely.
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Old March 24th, 2006, 09:03 AM   #90
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Stan thats shady as hell, I am not going to write my judgements of this guy but he doesnt sound liike a good human being. It sounds like you have been in the property game for quite a while but I might as well offer, My father sells all kinds products for building houses and what not and would be happy to help you out.


I just hope you dont go to the rap music for advice on this situation, or else you are gunna be creepin up on em in a benzy screamin hoody hoo and lettin shells fall to the pavement
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Old March 24th, 2006, 09:12 AM   #91
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He has not only screwed over Stan but he has a long history of screwing people over. When we were on M J he was crying about how awful his life was and how he was so poor and everything. Mike got him a job where he works. He had only been at that job a few months himself and he vouched for Eric. Eric didnt go to work on time and just jacked around. How do you think that looked for Mike? When Eric talked to me about the job he said, he didnt like it, and that it wasnt a good job. According to him he could get a job like that anywhere. If that was true then why did he have to cry on M J that society had done him wrong.
Also when I was really sick, I was paying him to help me around the house, and he just stopped and left me in a very bad position.
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Old March 24th, 2006, 09:24 AM   #92
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damn this guy seemed like an asshole i have seen him a few times but never talked to him before. i feel for you stan i hope everything works out if you need help with the clean up i could try and get home from school to lend a hand
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Old March 24th, 2006, 09:56 AM   #93
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Stan, I'm very sorry to hear that your kindness backfired do to some idiot that has no respect. Your a damn nice person and its sad to see this happen to you.
Thats about all I can say Stan, I'm actually speechless about this.
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Old March 24th, 2006, 10:22 AM   #94
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Stan it sucks that your kindness was not appreciated. If you could post a time and address, I would be more than happy to help you clean up the aftermath.

I think Saurian should get you and only you, Erics address to return his belongings, ultimately this is between you and Eric. I will gladly help load his junk and even unload it on the other end if need be. Hopefully this can be resolved peacefully even though I could see how you could easily loose your temper with this guy.

Let me know if you need help I'll bring my truck.
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Old March 24th, 2006, 11:11 AM   #95
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Stan, that blows to get shit on like that.
Help is here if you need it.

ps................Can I have dibs on that little trailer!
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Old March 24th, 2006, 11:37 AM   #96
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That sucks Stan. That is disgusting. Even if I left somewhere on bad terms I'd leave it at least in as good of condition as it was when I got there if not better especially after you and other have tried to help him out. After he has screwed so many people over I would be embarrassed to call him my friend. I would offer help but it sounds like you have plenty of other volunteers and its a bit of a drive from here. Good luck with the project though. Eric will get whats coming to him one day.
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Ok, when are we all getting together to load this stuff up? Stan, you have a PM.

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ill come down to the hood and help clean up. tell me when and ill bring the pick em up truck to help
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Damn. I guess I should post some pictures of all the crap in my Pole Barn. Then I would have an army of help to move it, too!
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I'm not at all defending what happened here; to do so would be something to the effect of...

Eric's my friend, and you're all assholes for ragging on him, Gypsies, gypsies did it, they abducted his children into the night, tranked him, and trashed the house, mailed him to Istanbul in a crate so it would all be blamed on him, how dare you all come down on him!

which, of course, I did not do.
Wow...

The word "not", in contemporary English usage, stands for the opposite of something being done. Inclusive between the two "not", would be the "how dare I come down on him" part...

If ya READ that part of the post, you will see that it is a SARCASTIC gesture, written in regard to Immortal, fulfilling the purpose of seperating the idea that I am defending Eric, and the reality that I am not defending what he did.

And nowhere do I seem to recall calling anybody an asshole. Nor did I say he got abused by his parents. Nor did I mention that his engine blew. Nor did I mention half a dozen other things, everybody else is mentioning them, I've not mentioned shit, not defended shit, but I do, however, appreciate the thought, makes it a HELL of a lot easier to talk about something when people put words in your mouth and do all the talking for you, almost effortless on your part really.
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