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Old March 21st, 2006, 11:44 PM   #21
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i did that with a van on an open trailer to take it to the junkyard drove it up put it in park and that was really a bad idea but it worked and noone got hurt but i really wouldnt ever do it again.

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Anyway, I have done it both to the frame and to the axles...I like stapping to the axles better...let the suspension smooth things out over bumps.
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Anyway, I have done it both to the frame and to the axles...I like stapping to the axles better...let the suspension smooth things out over bumps.
i thought u tow bar'd ?
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I know the factory ties them down by the frame on the train cars. But for a lifted truck I like going to the axles. I dont like the ideal of the straps getting shock loaded going over bumps.
I also use the criss cross method on the rear of my truck. I would cross the front too but with the tool box on my trailer I cant.
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I know the factory ties them down by the frame on the train cars. But for a lifted truck I like going to the axles. I dont like the ideal of the straps getting shock loaded going over bumps.
I also use the criss cross method on the rear of my truck. I would cross the front too but with the tool box on my trailer I cant.
Same with on a ship, they use tie downs to the frame. But, the motions that those things see on a train isn't as severe as bouncing a set of railroad tracks that can suddenly put all kinds of slack in straps when the suspension bounces 5 inches.
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Thanks guys, I think instead of tieing it down, I will just pull the Jeep up on the trailer and flip it on it's side, no rolling, no tie downs, no problem Oh yeah and put on the parking brake for extra assurance. I thinkI will stick with the straps to the axles with a criss cross on the back. Sounds like it has worked for others. Has anyone ever towed with a 6 cylinder ford f-150? 2003.
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Thanks guys, I think instead of tieing it down, I will just pull the Jeep up on the trailer and flip it on it's side, no rolling, no tie downs, no problem Oh yeah and put on the parking brake for extra assurance. I thinkI will stick with the straps to the axles with a criss cross on the back. Sounds like it has worked for others. Has anyone ever towed with a 6 cylinder ford f-150? 2003.

Sound sliek the proper way. Be allowing the suspension of the vehicle to move, you will take shock load off the trailer suspension.


As for the F150 part, read the post in this forum about towing with 1/2 tons. It should work, but will be slow. Don't try to use overdrive, get a decent brake controller and a weight distributing hitch and you'll probably be ok, as long as you don't get into a lot of hills..
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I tie cars to our auto roller at work and I have hung Dodge diesel Mega cabs upside down from three of them.
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i use chains front and rear, wraped around the axle. i "power bind" the front chain, then bind the rear. i havent had a problem with the jeep or anything else i have towed. i do want to start using straps because the are better than chains ( i think) becasue they will take up some slack in stead of just lossing up. i have had the tractor come lose, but i was only going like 10 miles, so i wasnt that worryed about it. i watched it to make sure it wasnt rocking that much and i only get up to about 40.

as far as the 1/2 ton, mine tows fine. need a bigger engine thats the only thing. but i do have a brake controler. i would sugest geting a weight dist hitch.
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I have tied down both ways ,whats funny is some peopl wont tie to the frame ,but they would never hook a winch cable or a jerk strap to there axle to pull some one out .I hook a chain to the rear drive ahead in low range chain the front bump the cluth and let every thing settle put a saftey cain on the front and go .I dont care for straps they can get cut or chafe on a long haul ,there not bad I just like my steel chains .If your rig is looseing up then some thing is not right .The leting the susspension move thing is great till you get a panic stop or have to do some deffensive driveing and every thing is swaying in different dirrections .And lastly the factory puts little rectangle cutout all over on your frame and unibody ,those are for tieing down and recovery .
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Good point guys. I guess that I am just going to have to pick a method and try it to see if it works for my Jeep, driving style and ease. I also wonder about the people that have insane amounts of flex and no sway bars and tie down to the axles. Does the Jeep lean way over on turns just like if it were being driven on the road = weight transfer? I should have a good amount of flex when I am done but with 38" tires full size axles and fitting in a standard garage with about 6" of clearence I should never be top heavy I personally have never had good things to say about chains. They are to "harsh" Straps, if taken care of will last a long time and take some of the jerk out of it. I also don't like the "have to go to the next chain link" when you only need 1/2 or 1/4 of a link.:dunie:
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Good point guys. I guess that I am just going to have to pick a method and try it to see if it works for my Jeep, driving style and ease. I also wonder about the people that have insane amounts of flex and no sway bars and tie down to the axles. Does the Jeep lean way over on turns just like if it were being driven on the road = weight transfer? I should have a good amount of flex when I am done but with 38" tires full size axles and fitting in a standard garage with about 6" of clearence I should never be top heavy I personally have never had good things to say about chains. They are to "harsh" Straps, if taken care of will last a long time and take some of the jerk out of it. I also don't like the "have to go to the next chain link" when you only need 1/2 or 1/4 of a link.:dunie:
Straps if you take care of them thats the key .At work we go throuh straps alot tieing machinery down ,scares me when I here wraping around the axel.

Chains :you dont need a big log chain to tie down a rig ,get your chains the right length and you are done, hookem tighten gone .

And yes you will get the same sway or really close on a trailer .I Followed a guy from the Bad Lands and he had his sway bars dis. and the thing was all over the place .
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I have also noticed a diffrence in how much the rigs bounces on the trailer if I air the tires back up to normal pressure. Lower the pressure, seems to sway a little more on the trailer.
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i tied a conversion van(same one i did a real short tow without tying) by the suspension once and had major sway it almost got me into an accident. i looked in the rearview at one point in the ordeal to see the top of the van out farther than the rails on the trailer that scared the shit out of me. i think it would have been a lot better frametied.
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After having a trailered vehicle chew through a 10k ratchet strap on the front end, I always start with a 5/8" chain from the towed vehicle's frame to the front of the trailer. Then I add ratchet straps from there.

Just wanted to add that since I havent seen chains mentioned too much yet.
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Yeah, not recommended to put straps directly to the vehicle, You are best to buy reinforced/abrasion proof axle slings. Those go around the vehicle, then the strap goes just from the axle sling to the tie point on the trailer, and really doesn't contact anything. They will last a long long time if you do that.
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