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Old January 17th, 2008, 10:26 AM   #1
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Red face So Mr. Toes wants me to start a thread arguing the bible.....

So Mr. Toes has this great idea to start a thread arguing the bible because of a remark I made about Adam and Eve...... So I guess we start there:

1. Did god create JUST Adam and Eve, or were there others he created at the same time?

2. If there were more, how do you know that?

3. If he created JUST Adam and Eve, and they had kids, and their kids had kids, and so on, wouldn't we all be products of incest?

Let the games begin!

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Old January 17th, 2008, 10:30 AM   #2
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Old January 17th, 2008, 10:31 AM   #3
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first God created Adam, He created Eve from Adams rib so that Adam would have companionship, Adam and Eve had Cain and Able but also had many other kids.

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Old January 17th, 2008, 10:32 AM   #5
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first God created Adam, He created Eve from Adams rib so that Adam would have companionship, Adam and Eve had Cain and Able but also had many other kids.

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So what about question #3?
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Old January 17th, 2008, 11:02 AM   #6
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so if there were 2 people, they had kids, and they had kids then were all inbred hillbillys. i think it's just a bunch of made up superstitious religous BS. thats just me though.
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Old January 17th, 2008, 11:47 AM   #7
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So Mr. Toes has this great idea to start a thread arguing the bible because of a remark I made about Adam and Eve...... So I guess we start there:

1. Did god create JUST Adam and Eve, or were there others he created at the same time?

2. If there were more, how do you know that?

3. If he created JUST Adam and Eve, and they had kids, and their kids had kids, and so on, wouldn't we all be products of incest?

Let the games begin!

And try to play nice. There's no need for personal attacks. It's just a debate.
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I wish people would stop trying to shove religion down my throat, it really hurts me.
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Old January 17th, 2008, 11:53 AM   #9
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haha speaking of that i had a few nutcases come to my door the other day. i hate those people. i told them if they could answer a few questions then i'd consider(lying of course). they couldn't. so i told them to get the fukc off my doorstep...lol
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haha speaking of that i had a few nutcases come to my door the other day. i hate those people. i told them if they could answer a few questions then i'd consider(lying of course). they couldn't. so i told them to get the fukc off my doorstep...lol
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Genesis 4:17 Cain lay with his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch.

There were others.
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first God created Adam, He created Eve from Adams rib so that Adam would have companionship, Adam and Eve had Cain and Able but also had many other kids.

NEXT...

I love this part of the Bible. First of all, it is demeaning to women and second of all, if a person were cloned from another person they would be identical. Women have XX sex chromosomes, men have XY. Scientific proof of the inaccuracy of the Bible.
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Genesis 4:17 Cain lay with his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch.

There were others.
That's great! Now, answer question #3 in my original post. If this is true, then aren't we all products of incest?
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Scientific proof of the inaccuracy of the Bible.
I suspect this is only the beginning.
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3. If he created JUST Adam and Eve, and they had kids, and their kids had kids, and so on, wouldn't we all be products of incest?
Yes.
When God created Adam and Eve they were perfect, without any genetic defects. Incest did not become taboo until many years later when more and more genetic mistakes started showing up. Cain and his sister could have kids without worry of the same genetic mistakes matching up and producing deformed children.
Did you know that Abraham married his half-sister?
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Answers in Genesis gives an in depth study on Q #3
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Old January 17th, 2008, 05:19 PM   #17
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So Mr. Toes has this great idea to start a thread arguing the bible because of a remark I made about Adam and Eve...... So I guess we start there:

1. Did god create JUST Adam and Eve, or were there others he created at the same time?

2. If there were more, how do you know that?

3. If he created JUST Adam and Eve, and they had kids, and their kids had kids, and so on, wouldn't we all be products of incest?

Let the games begin!

And try to play nice. There's no need for personal attacks. It's just a debate.
1&2 Genisis Chapter 4 does talk about Cain and his wife. But it also talks about brothers and sisters non of which are linked to Cain so we can presume God did infact create additional humans. And since Cains wife had childern with Cain this would keep the Adam and Eve relationship since Cain was their child.
Also if you read further into Genisis it talks of Giants and people of old. They become part of the Adam and Eve bloodline also, but they do it without incest.

3 If creation is as you decribe in your # 3 than the answer is yes we would a prduct of incest. But I have yet to find that in The Bible.

















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I love this part of the Bible. First of all, it is demeaning to women and second of all, if a person were cloned from another person they would be identical. Women have XX sex chromosomes, men have XY. Scientific proof of the inaccuracy of the Bible.
I can't seem to find anything that would be demeaning to women that is a product of the Bible. I have read some historical accounts of how society treated women differently several thousand years ago than the are treated now but that is not due to the writing of the bible.
Its also ironic to me that science has this fixation to explain away Cristianity. I like the X and Y chromosomes thing did anybody know this 2 or 3 hundred years ago. I just wonder because I believe that doctors and scientist at that point didn't have enough sense to wash their hands. The point is science is in a stage of infancy.
Can you imagine the science it would take to take a mans rib and create another human.
If you could do this you would be a GOD in the science community.




















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I can't seem to find anything that would be demeaning to women that is a product of the Bible. I have read some historical accounts of how society treated women differently several thousand years ago than the are treated now but that is not due to the writing of the bible.
Its also ironic to me that science has this fixation to explain away Cristianity. I like the X and Y chromosomes thing did anybody know this 2 or 3 hundred years ago. I just wonder because I believe that doctors and scientist at that point didn't have enough sense to wash their hands. The point is science is in a stage of infancy.
Can you imagine the science it would take to take a mans rib and create another human.
If you could do this you would be a GOD in the science community.
Are you serious? The passage states that God made Woman FROM A PIECE OF MAN for mans enjoyment! So she is created unequally and for mans pleasure. Ridiculous.
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Are you serious? The passage states that God made Woman FROM A PIECE OF MAN for mans enjoyment! So she is created unequally and for mans pleasure. Ridiculous.
I read Genisis Chapter 2 Thats the part about the rib. I couldn't find what your talking about. I did find the part about leaving your parents and cleaving to your wife. I also found some other cool stuff about husbands treat you wife as you would the church. Maybee thats what you where talking about?
There was a lot of demeaning stuff about a wife being a help mate, and husband and wife joining as one . But I guess that would be demeaning to yourself in kind of by proxie way??
Please tell me where you found that so I can read it. I checked the King James version and the Jerusalem Bible but I couldn't find it in either one.
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