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Old January 14th, 2008, 06:12 PM   #21
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I do agree that w/ training, a firearm is a good deterent... I don't however believe that I want to shoot someone...
That is a very good thing to be able to admit.

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I don't care how 1000% in the right I am, I know that 1) I'll end up spending alot of money proving I was right - both criminally and civilly...
Luckily Michigan has passed a law that if you shoot someone, and it is proven to be in defense, you cannot be found guilty civilly. That doesn't mean they won't try and sue you anyway though.

Like the saying goes... I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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Old January 14th, 2008, 06:13 PM   #22
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Dipshit. Read it pleassse. I said if they have a gun at you.
I would refrain from calling me a dipshit.

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Old January 14th, 2008, 06:16 PM   #23
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Like the saying goes... I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
There is a whole lot of merit to that.
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Old January 14th, 2008, 06:23 PM   #24
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Get a gun and pop the douche in the knee cap if he trys anything!!. Go buy one of those little bitty guns about the size of your palm. That would be perfect. It was probably someone just playing ding dong ditch.
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Old January 14th, 2008, 06:27 PM   #25
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I get that quite often at my place downtown (GR), I have a nice big bat by the door just in case, most of the time its just a little niglet asking for money or to use my phone, so I just give them some watermelon and get them on their way.

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Old January 14th, 2008, 06:30 PM   #26
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I get that quite often at my place downtown (GR), I have a nice big bat by the door just in case, most of the time its just a little niglet asking for money or to use my phone, so I just give them some watermelon and get them on their way.

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Old January 14th, 2008, 06:31 PM   #27
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I get that quite often at my place downtown (GR), I have a nice big bat by the door just in case, most of the time its just a little niglet asking for money or to use my phone, so I just give them some watermelon and get them on their way.

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Old January 14th, 2008, 06:34 PM   #28
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Well first off, if you shoot an unarmed person standing outside your door... you will be going to jail.

Second if you life is in danger and you have a weapon, the last place you shoot someone is in the knee. You aim for center of mass and fire enough rounds to stop the threat.
dont you know ANYTHING ? just yell "It's coming right for us" before you pop his ass
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Old January 14th, 2008, 06:35 PM   #29
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Have you never hear of door knockers? Who knows you might of been able to get a 2 for 1!
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Old January 14th, 2008, 06:37 PM   #30
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you mean like this? lol

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Old January 14th, 2008, 06:37 PM   #31
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I get that quite often at my place downtown (GR), I have a nice big bat by the door just in case, most of the time its just a little niglet asking for money or to use my phone, so I just give them some watermelon and get them on their way.

Before I say what I am about to say.. Let me be clear here that I see the humor in your comment..

that said.. I'm not sure if any of this is accurate, but a quick google search on the name in your avatar yields two addresses.. one in Muskegon, and the other in the NW side of GR... you might want to reconsider advertising a business on your avatar as you post things as stated above..

Now, if custom computing is run by someone you don't like and would like to see them get their ass handed to them.. that makes all this that much funnier!!!
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Old January 14th, 2008, 06:46 PM   #32
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you mean like this? lol

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Old January 14th, 2008, 06:50 PM   #33
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Get a gun and pop the douche in the knee cap if he trys anything!!. Go buy one of those little bitty guns about the size of your palm. That would be perfect. It was probably someone just playing ding dong ditch.
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Dipshit. Read it pleassse. I said if they have a gun at you.

I do not see where you stated they had a gun. So before you call people dipshits, you better make sure what you said.
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Old January 14th, 2008, 06:59 PM   #34
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Before I say what I am about to say.. Let me be clear here that I see the humor in your comment..

that said.. I'm not sure if any of this is accurate, but a quick google search on the name in your avatar yields two addresses.. one in Muskegon, and the other in the NW side of GR... you might want to reconsider advertising a business on your avatar as you post things as stated above..

Now, if custom computing is run by someone you don't like and would like to see them get their ass handed to them.. that makes all this that much funnier!!!


NW side of G.R. is the correct one, we have a Muskegon office too but most of the business is here in G.R.

And I'm one of the owners of Custom Computing so I do like them, for the most part I don't have any problems around my area just a few pregnant pit bulls running loose that will most likely rip my leg off but other than that its cool.


Also if the watermelon doesn't work I always have a bucket of chicken and a 40 ounce of Colt 45 ready for backup.
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Old January 14th, 2008, 07:07 PM   #35
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I think you've got the right idea with the upgraded motion light and the living room light being off so you can see. also, some of that x-10 stuff and the like is cheap enough you could have the front door wired to you tv upstairs and not have to get out of bed, could also check craigslist for some deals.

I won't go on and on about firearms...but my Glock sure is a great comfort when dealing with unknown situations such as yours. Just be glad it was a knock and not the sound of breaking glass.

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edit: ahh haha, didn't even directly answer your initial question. Based on the facts you presented and your situation, you did what I would have done: not answer it.
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Old January 14th, 2008, 07:09 PM   #36
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does your front door have glass in it? if you don't want a gun get yourself one or two of those trillion candlepower spotlights. light em' up they will be unable to see you and you will be able to see what they are doing and or whom they are
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Old January 14th, 2008, 07:13 PM   #37
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Have shotgun in hand, while standing next to the closed door, ask who it is any why they knock. If they seem predatory in any way, make famous shotgun noise and wait from there to see what happens.

I would not want to leave some psyco at my door in the middle of the night by themselves, I would want to know what was going on, and for what reason.
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Old January 14th, 2008, 07:13 PM   #38
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Well first off, if you shoot an unarmed person standing outside your door... you will be going to jail.

Second if you life is in danger and you have a weapon, the last place you shoot someone is in the knee. You aim for center of mass and fire enough rounds to stop the threat.
the law in michigan the way i understanded as explained to me by a ccw instructer states you can use up to leathel force to get a trespasser off private property
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Old January 14th, 2008, 07:15 PM   #39
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I would not have answered it, but I'll bet my over 400 lbs of dogs would have been at the door barking a warning :)
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Old January 14th, 2008, 07:15 PM   #40
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the idea of getting a very bright spot light is a good one.. it would be a big help in most situations..

anyone got any comments on buying a tazer?
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