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Old April 6th, 2008, 11:34 PM   #141
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Thank you, finally!! Thank you!
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Old April 7th, 2008, 05:54 AM   #142
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Late into the game. wow, +10
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Old April 7th, 2008, 05:59 AM   #143
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I have been leaning towards the fab shop's side during this thread (I've owned a business, I know what they are going through) but I'm also understanding of the customer's expectations. I would like to see what the rest of the bumper looks like. One post said that the last part of the build was rushed, maybe the last plate was cobbled to get the customer what they want in a hurry. As a business owner I understand what has to be done when a customer is waiting in the office tapping their foot because their vehicle, parts, whatever, isn't done. On the customer's side, that's not acceptable quality for a professionally built part. If it's just that one plate that's screwed up it should not be a difficult fix. I hope it works out for all parties involved.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 06:22 AM   #144
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notice I didn't say anything about the welds? :tonka: I may be the worst welder ever. I've tried and tried, and I just plain suck.

I can sure drill holes like a champ though!
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Old April 7th, 2008, 07:01 AM   #145
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I have been leaning towards the fab shop's side during this thread (I've owned a business, I know what they are going through) but I'm also understanding of the customer's expectations. I would like to see what the rest of the bumper looks like. One post said that the last part of the build was rushed, maybe the last plate was cobbled to get the customer what they want in a hurry. As a business owner I understand what has to be done when a customer is waiting in the office tapping their foot because their vehicle, parts, whatever, isn't done. On the customer's side, that's not acceptable quality for a professionally built part. If it's just that one plate that's screwed up it should not be a difficult fix. I hope it works out for all parties involved.
I hear you on this but at the end of the day, I just can't buy it. Knowing that a customer is going to be using this as a pull point takes precedence over an impatient customer. If you want your reputation to stand, you have to take the position of "If I can't do it right, I won't do it at all".

As a supplier to the offroad industry, they should have told him he could have his money back if he was not willing to wait for it to be right. Period.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 08:01 AM   #146
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Like whiterhino says....do it right or don't do it at all. If I was fabbing a bumper myself and I ended up with something like that I would be pissed to have to scrap it, but I would rather spend a few bucks and a little time and just do it right. If I was running a fab shop there is no way in hell I would ever even let anyone see crap like that. 99% of their work may be great, but one bad job like this will change a lot of people's minds about buying from them. Especially when there isn't a shortage of fab shops in MI right now.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 08:21 AM   #147
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notice I didn't say anything about the welds? :tonka: I may be the worst welder ever. I've tried and tried, and I just plain suck.

I can sure drill holes like a champ though!
I'm the opposite, I can make a good weld, but I dont have the patience to notch, drill, bend cut, grind, etc to make stuff look and fit right before doing the weld.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 08:21 AM   #148
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Old April 7th, 2008, 09:16 AM   #149
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I'm the opposite, I can make a good weld, but I dont have the patience to notch, drill, bend cut, grind, etc to make stuff look and fit right before doing the weld.
maybe we should open up a fab shop. :tonka:
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maybe we should open up a fab shop. :tonka:
Or a Jewish Deli. I'm sure it would be very profitable for you two.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 10:54 AM   #151
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maybe we should open up a fab shop. :tonka:
I'm in, we can start with YJ leaf spring set ups, as we both seem good at bending and braking front leafs, we can set our sites on a trouble free set up for those cheap bastards still wanting to run leafs :tonka:
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Old April 7th, 2008, 11:44 AM   #152
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I'm in, we can start with YJ leaf spring set ups, as we both seem good at bending and braking front leafs, we can set our sites on a trouble free set up for those cheap bastards still wanting to run leafs :tonka:
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You can find better, but you'll never pay more.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 12:16 PM   #153
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thanks for the turn in support all. It is nice to see people understanding my chemically imbalanced anger and frustration. the deal Neil and I have worked out requires me to edit a few thing in this thread once I have cash in hand. So all will know if I get my money back or if there is more monkey biz! I think all is well. I am having a hell of a time with the money orders though. No one wants to cash them. I will try again tomarrow.

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Old April 7th, 2008, 12:20 PM   #154
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still waiting for your phone call with a time to meet james.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 12:23 PM   #155
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thats bullshit. just because he makes it right doesn't mean it didn't happen. he still sold you some SHITTY bumpers. making it right at this point should happen regardless of you editing this thread.

If he wants to run a business then don't sell shit!
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Old April 7th, 2008, 12:24 PM   #156
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thanks for the turn in support all. It is nice to see people understanding my chemically imbalanced anger and frustration. Have fun with it while you can, as the deal Neil and I have worked out requires me to edit a few thing in this thread once I have cash in hand. So all will know if I get my money back or if there is more monkey biz!
Again, I have no dog in this fight, but if it took you to bring it the publics eye, and you had to say some things that they aren't proud of that isn't something they should hold over your head for you to be able to get your money back....IMO.

I mean, if I get mad at best buy and tell people not to shop there and they give me my money back, I can still tell people not to shop there......
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the deal Neil and I have worked out requires me to edit a few thing in this thread once I have cash in hand. So all will know if I get my money back or if there is more monkey biz!
That's bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He should be crawling to you giving you your money back regardless of the current posts.

"WHEN" he makes good, it should be up to you to decide what you want to say about him making good.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 12:25 PM   #158
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You can use this slogan:

You can find better, but you'll never pay more.



Roktoy-Cracker Outfitters

"You could build better, but wouldn't you rather pay more?"



Clarkston and UP industries

"He can't weld, I don't have patience, you're shits going to end up fukt." :tonka:
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Have fun with it while you can, as the deal Neil and I have worked out requires me to edit a few thing in this thread once I have cash in hand.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 12:38 PM   #160
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Edit a couple things in here, then start another thread with the pics...cuz I missed them...

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