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Old March 31st, 2008, 11:41 PM   #41
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do you guys do solid axle swaps?
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Old April 1st, 2008, 12:48 AM   #42
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Old April 1st, 2008, 06:40 AM   #43
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this is unbelievable i knew i should of kicked this guy out of our shop as soon as he started talking crap behind nosilla's back what a two face a hole when he left he was all smiles and spoke to us about rock rails
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I am 2 faced? You are on Kelly's boards promoting youre crap, Didnt you just call him a spoon fed prick as well as a few other choice words today? Face the facts and not the b.s.. This bumper would be great if I were putting it on a go kart, or a power wheels ect... For wheeling with my family and other families, no fin way.
Isn't the first time I've heard Neil saying stuff about me to others. I always found it odd how he constantly talks shit about me, yet pimps his products here.

Oh well, to each his own.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 07:24 AM   #44
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I'm still waiting for pics.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 08:04 AM   #45
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Wow, welcome to building stuff for people in this industry. When something goes wrong its out there for EVERYONE to see and hear about. On another note, if you need your problem of shitty looking brackets with odd shaped holes then give me a shout and I can cut whatever you need. good luck.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 08:25 AM   #46
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Old April 1st, 2008, 09:17 AM   #47
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Kelly i have been trying to get ahold of you again all morning.
Busy morning, and I have meetings in the afternoon. I will be home tonight.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 09:19 AM   #48
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Okay i will call you after 5 then.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 09:27 AM   #49
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I look at it this way......we are making it right and thats all we can do.
I never would have said anything, except the fact when he came over he said you guys had spent his money and couldn't give it back.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 10:24 AM   #50
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what an a$$hat,it sound to me like thers no pleasing some ppl, this thread never would have gone this farif someone would have approched this like an adult, and not run to a buddies and cry, you drove over 100miles to go to DT to nitpick a product you carried away, happlythey didnt force you to take them, you know how paypal works, you never should taken the product, and setteled it through paypal. As for safty, my rock rails have saved me 2x, and are not dented, twister or pushed out of shape, and one save was when a lady hit me, did nothing to the jeep, but broke and dented her bumper, and i have winched, and pulled ppl with jpfab bumpers, one was a 1999xj. Simple fact, your not new to this, if you are, then keep your jeep stock till you know what your doing, they tried to make thing right, and you just wanna keep bitching, or is this your way to be cool by publicly bashing a place YOU removed the bumpers from. if you were half as intellagent as you act to be, you would have inspected the product be for excepting it, and if you ran to DT after getting them, why didnt you have him make them
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Old April 1st, 2008, 11:05 AM   #51
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I never would have said anything, except the fact when he came over he said you guys had spent his money and couldn't give it back.

Why or how could he no what money we have? We never said no such thing to him.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 02:21 PM   #52
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and i would never butt weld clevis mounts and i am a certified welder so unless you can top my credentials keep it to yourself
Just curious what are you certified in ? And where did you get your certification?
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Old April 1st, 2008, 10:20 PM   #53
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All I know is I like my rockrails that are from JP Fab, and my front bumper that Neil made pre-JP Fab. Neil and Paul are all around good people who would never fukc someone over. I cant believe some people...
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Old April 1st, 2008, 10:31 PM   #54
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I got my bumpers a few months back, and I absolutely love the look of em on my XJ! Neil and Paul are great guys and set me up with some awesome bumpers! All I can say is that these guys do great work!!! I'm not just saying this because I'm in the same Jeep club, but I am saying this as a customer, and I will come back to them for any fab work that i need in the future.





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Old April 1st, 2008, 10:34 PM   #55
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Thats why I am vouching for him. I saw them in person. I'm sure all the club members that they have built stuff for are real happy with their stuff. His bumpers look nothing like the ones posted above.

So well tell ya what...when Neil and Paul get them back, maybe they can post up some pictures of them. Some good closeups of the welds and the brackets.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 10:36 PM   #56
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Its a damn shame this had to be played out on the web. I owned a business for years and can attest to how important customer service is. If you own a business you will not be able to avoid the occasional unhappy customer. Good luck nosilla and jeepfan1974 with the business. Anybody that thinks its all profit and show up when you want or work when you want needs and education. New businesses are bitch to get going and you have to put in a zillion hours at first.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 10:48 PM   #57
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Thanks Nuggets. You are 100% correct.

Ryan. Let it go man. James and i have work this out so that he is happy.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 11:35 PM   #58
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I can say this they built me my rear bumper for my ZJ and I'm happy with it. I've had one little issue with the swing out and there fixing it with out ant problem at all.. In the future I'll go to them for other Jeep products also...


And I'm not even in there club.....
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Old April 1st, 2008, 11:41 PM   #59
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I'm not saying they can't build nice bumpers. What I was saying is the ones they built for him, weren't nice. Cosmetically or structurally. I'm not making it up or just trying to bash them. I'll give you a list if you want it. I wasn't trying to steal their business because I offered to fix them for free. Hell, I have sent them business.

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Old April 2nd, 2008, 12:15 AM   #60
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what an a$$hat,it sound to me like thers no pleasing some ppl, this thread never would have gone this farif someone would have approched this like an adult, and not run to a buddies and cry, you drove over 100miles to go to DT to nitpick a product you carried away, happlythey didnt force you to take them, you know how paypal works, you never should taken the product, and setteled it through paypal. As for safty, my rock rails have saved me 2x, and are not dented, twister or pushed out of shape, and one save was when a lady hit me, did nothing to the jeep, but broke and dented her bumper, and i have winched, and pulled ppl with jpfab bumpers, one was a 1999xj. Simple fact, your not new to this, if you are, then keep your jeep stock till you know what your doing, they tried to make thing right, and you just wanna keep bitching, or is this your way to be cool by publicly bashing a place YOU removed the bumpers from. if you were half as intellagent as you act to be, you would have inspected the product be for excepting it, and if you ran to DT after getting them, why didnt you have him make them
First off dickhead, your rails and my bumpers are two different things. If you read the entire thread you would have seen that I said they do good looking work on tj's cj's and zj's. I am not a welder or a fab guy and have never claimed to be, which is prob why the bumpers left with me. If I had been a fab guy or a welder they would not have left with me. I didnt run to DT to show him my bumpers, I do biz with him and had to pick up some vynil. Also, I was recomended to neil from someone else who I thought to be credible. The agreement has been a process, and it sucks that it got aired out on the boards, but most of it will get edited out if things work out. But I almost feel obligated now because of dicks like you to post these pics, even though the agreement neil and I are working on, requires me not to. But now that MY CREDIBILITY as well as DT'S is at stake you are putting them in jepordy or more exposure with these pics. Neil and paul I am sure would not like to have these out there because of you I am sure. So you should just shut your mouth, and mid your biz.
Andouchman or whatever your dumbass name is, can you read? I didnt start this thread. so shut the f up.

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