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Old June 6th, 2008, 08:33 PM   #401
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While I agree with you, I also have to agree with D/T. If he chooses to do something to his personal rig, it's totally different than selling it as custom work to the general public. You both make good points.
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Old June 6th, 2008, 09:19 PM   #402
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And, if you're gonna throw out a comment about JCR having problems in the past, you should provide a name and/or link. That or you are what you're claiming other folks are doing.
It's pretty fair to say we have had our share of issues, even up to now.

The difference is the way in which we take care of those issues... that is why most of them aren't spread around the internet.
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Old June 6th, 2008, 10:07 PM   #403
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agreed completely.
Ya, If I was building tube fenders to build tube fenders they would have been a lot different and built strong. My Jeep was far from a mall crawler but I wasn't beating the piss out of it either. My cage was DOM. My bumpers were 2x4x1/4. My D rings were 3"x5"x3/4' welded front and back double pass verticle. I'm big on building shit strong, for a purpose, and to last when I need to. My fenders were just to replace the smashed stock ones.
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Old June 7th, 2008, 06:24 AM   #404
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The difference is the way in which we take care of those issues... that is why most of them aren't spread around the internet.
That's it in a nutshell. Years ago I had a warranty issue that was a real PITA. The customer said "it's not that you screwed up, it's how you deal with it that will determine if you get future business from us".

So many people look at the short term and blow it.
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Old June 7th, 2008, 08:35 AM   #405
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Ya, If I was building tube fenders to build tube fenders they would have been a lot different and built strong. My Jeep was far from a mall crawler but I wasn't beating the piss out of it either. My cage was DOM. My bumpers were 2x4x1/4. My D rings were 3"x5"x3/4' welded front and back double pass verticle. I'm big on building shit strong, for a purpose, and to last when I need to. My fenders were just to replace the smashed stock ones.

you see this gets blow out on this site and others...d-rings can be butt welded, in fact there is a shop that everyone thinks is the best that butt welds them...
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Old June 7th, 2008, 08:43 AM   #406
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you see this gets blow out on this site and others...d-rings can be butt welded, in fact there is a shop that everyone thinks is the best that butt welds them...
Yes and it is how they are but welded that makes them fine.
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I buy back shit from my stores every day that I know is customer misuse or ignorance but I do it because of what Whiterhino said. The small loss on my part is better than losing a decent customer in the long run. And when talking fab stuff that has issues, monkeyevil is also correct. If you have any amount of customers you WILL have a few unhappy ones. You just handle it like you would want to be treated and make it right no matter the hastle, especialy now in the glorious days of the intraweb. right jp fab?
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Boils down to the golden rule doesn't it?
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Old June 7th, 2008, 06:26 PM   #412
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Boils down to the golden rule doesn't it?
Those who have the gold, make the rules?








Sorry, just had to get in on this.


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Old June 7th, 2008, 07:39 PM   #413
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Old June 7th, 2008, 08:25 PM   #414
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Old June 7th, 2008, 08:37 PM   #415
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do i hear 22 pages
I only see 11 pages.....but I see that we keep going and going just like the energizer bunny....

Here I will switch it up, maybe someone could chop "vendor" in place of animal? Or maybe customer?

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Old June 8th, 2008, 12:54 PM   #416
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I'll take your and raise it to a

And, if you're gonna throw out a comment about JCR having problems in the past, you should provide a name and/or link. That or you are what you're claiming other folks are doing.
Ummm, I'll see your call, raise you a :miff: and then call your bluff. :chiefwoohaw: What in the hell are you talking about? I am doing nothing of the sort. I was simply giving an example. Ok, it's not that difficult little one, so follow along, ok? I was stating that I wouldn't go by someone elses word alone on making my decision on what to buy. I was giving an example. I had heard a few negative things about JCR in the past. (I don't need to give an example on that as most in here who slammed JP Fab didn't as well). I'm not gonna slam JCR either. I was stating that I had heard negative things a couple of years back, I decided to check it outfor myself, (therefore noteing a I was very pleased with the outcome. End result, I didn't listed to negatives and checked it out for myself. I was very pleased as JCR has excellent customer service and a great product. If I wasn't so closeby to JP Fab (there down the street) and friends with the owners, I would only get my stuff from JCR.

Now, what was so hard to understand about that JohnnyJ?
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If people start saying good stuff, you can be a vendor, until that, toss your business in the support members forum, or the gl4x4 discount forum if you offer discounts to gl4x4 members
very nice. A good g4x4 discount would be nice in this ecooomy :tonka:
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Ummm, I'll see your call, raise you a :miff: and then call your bluff. :chiefwoohaw: What in the hell are you talking about? I am doing nothing of the sort. I was simply giving an example. Ok, it's not that difficult little one, so follow along, ok? I was stating that I wouldn't go by someone elses word alone on making my decision on what to buy. I was giving an example. I had heard a few negative things about JCR in the past. (I don't need to give an example on that as most in here who slammed JP Fab didn't as well). What about the pictures of the fawked up rear XJ bumper? Or the Blue TJ with crooked hacked together shit all over it? Or what about the 18 page thread on the cherokee board where they dicked the guy around on money? I'm not gonna slam JCR either. I was stating that I had heard negative things a couple of years back, I decided to check it outfor myself, (therefore noteing a I was very pleased with the outcome. End result, I didn't listed to negatives and checked it out for myself. I was very pleased as JCR has excellent customer service and a great product. If I wasn't so closeby to JP Fab (there down the street) and friends with the owners, I would only get my stuff from JCR.

Now, what was so hard to understand about that JohnnyJ?

Your a satisfied customer thats great. You however are one, the other is ouchman. I am not taking anything away from that. But 3 unsatisfied customers is more then 2, and I am sure they had more then 5 customers. But those are not odds I am willing to go with. Nor the fashion that I saw 2 of the 3 get dealt with. The 3rd kept his

You use JCR as an example. Yes they have had problems, monkeyevil even told you so.

Let's just say that had at least 3 problems (the same as someone else). What is the difference?
1st 100's of satisfied customers.
2. The way they dealt with it.
3. This thread is not about JCR. It is about an XJ that got ALL hacked up by someone else.

The real question is what in the hell are YOU talking about?

Your ability to put your thoughts into a post and type them out to make sense is not so good.














































































































































































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