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Old January 4th, 2008, 12:42 PM   #41
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most foreign? is there really anything not-foreign about that car?
I think the emblems were made here.

I remember talking to one of the sales guys at Tri City Toyota before they moved from Midland to Bay City(they were still owned by Crown out of Holland). He told me that a Geo Prism is gone in no time while a Corrolla will sit longer. The only difference being the emblems for the most part. (That joint-venture was replaced with the Pontiac Vibe/Toyota Matrix which are built on the Corolla chassis)

I keep trying to get the wife(she drives a lot for work) to look at a VW Jetta TDI(45-50+mpg) but they can really need some $$$ repairs after a while.

I had a '89 Olds Cutlass for a DD and that thing got @ 30 mpg. Not bad for $700.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 02:38 PM   #42
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what irritates me about the fuel prices is the economy. our elected officials allow prices to continue to go up, however i do not get a "fuel cost increase" raise nor a cost of living raise when retail products go up because of fuel costs. the economy sux balls so there are no raises.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 03:31 PM   #43
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I get more irritated at the differences a few miles make. At work, I pay 10-15 cents more a gallon than at home. its only 24 miles apart!!

It's bullshit. Whats even more bullshit are diesel prices right now. go down to i 94 and you will pay anywhere from 3.13-3.30 a gallon. its near 4 dollars in the brighton area right now!!
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Old January 4th, 2008, 03:37 PM   #44
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I get more irritated at the differences a few miles make. At work, I pay 10-15 cents more a gallon than at home. its only 24 miles apart!!

It's bullshit. Whats even more bullshit are diesel prices right now. go down to i 94 and you will pay anywhere from 3.13-3.30 a gallon. its near 4 dollars in the brighton area right now!!
demographic and what people can or will pay. richer areas pay more cause they will accept more of an increase.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 03:47 PM   #45
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what irritates me about the fuel prices is the economy. our elected officials allow prices to continue to go up, however i do not get a "fuel cost increase" raise nor a cost of living raise when retail products go up because of fuel costs. the economy sux balls so there are no raises.
Exactly what powers do elected officials have that would allow them to directly control the price of an international traded commodity? The last thing you want is MORE government involvement in controling and setting prices. The only thing that can ever result from increased government intervention is higher prices. It has been proven time after time after time.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 03:47 PM   #46
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...So, who else have finally "thrown in the towel" with gas prices and have downsized?
I posted a thread on another forum asking the Q, at what cost would the price of gas need to go before you did something 'life altering' (like selling/parking your present car and buying an econobox). Most people missed the point. Gas prices suck because from one day (sometimes less than that) to another you can't 'depend' on what the price is gonna be. IE: $2.99 in the morning, $3.29 in the afternoon.
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... why dd a friggin' truck if you don't need to...
That was me when I owned my 1996 F150. After three years of commuting 35 miles per day (at 16 mpg), I said wtf, and bought a 2002 Z24. Bingo: 30 mpg. Disclaimer: I really miss my 1985 Escort diesel...54mpg. I would buy one tank a month.
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im gona get a saturn or something and put the jeep on one of those seasonal insurance plans.
Oh...No. There's too much junk parked in the streets in our 'hood already. I love my neighbors who have four friggin' pickups all parked in the street.
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Im an American I drive the biggest gas suckinest vehicle I can find. I eat red meat and drink like a fish. I support all the unions that make all my purchases of American products outragious.
Well I agree on one of your three sentences.
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demographic and what people can or will pay. richer areas pay more cause they will accept more of an increase.
Nice, but it really comes down to competition. I-94 is a high traffic truck route with a lot of options for getting fuel. Trucks that drive along I-94 into Canada can hit Chicago, Detroit, Toronto, etc... These are high volume areas. Brighton just doesn't quite rank up there.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 04:25 PM   #48
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Why not get a car the runs on Compressed air?
http://www.theaircar.com/

I'm not sure if it's that car, but there is a company in France that is goign to be selling them in the us for like 45-4600. We've been thinking about actually looking at one. Right now I have my Explorer and we have my wife's Escort. Both are very good cars and the Escort get's 25-30 MPG. The Ex get's about 15-20. Let's just say I don't drive the Ex when I don't HAVE to. And I might be getting a bike to ride to work in the spring. 10 miles really isn't that far. Maybe a half hour of riding.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 04:38 PM   #49
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Oh...No. There's too much junk parked in the streets in our 'hood already. I love my neighbors who have four friggin' pickups all parked in the street.


hey my buick sat in the street for three years while i was in the service

speaking of your neighbors trucks ive almost slid into them at least three times coming around that corner this winter. that dam four door SRT10.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 06:41 PM   #50
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It's not new
Besides seeing you in a GEO (pls post a pic) the funniest part is you stated it was not new. Have they made GEO's in the last 10 yrs? I hope it has a sunroof so you can see the stop lights.

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Old January 4th, 2008, 06:50 PM   #51
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Have they made GEO's in the last 10 yrs?
I think the Metros were made through the 2000 or 2001 model year. Then there were the Trackers, Storms, and Prizms.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 07:59 PM   #52
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I was driving my 2001 Club cab 360ci 4X4 Off-Road Ram everyday at a cost of about $100 a week in fuel 10-12 mpg anytime of year. A little over a year ago I gave in and bought a 2000 Buick LeSabre (commonly called the grandpa grocery getter by my friends) It's considered full size by the insurance co. so It's $500 a year cheaper for insurance, the tires are only $50 a piece compared to $200 for the Ram and I can go two weeks on $60 worth of fuel.28-30 mpg summer 24-26 mpg winter avg. But now Friends call me Grandpa. :gman:
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Old January 4th, 2008, 08:13 PM   #53
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shawn don't wimp out, we need pics
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Back in '05 when I was working at the Marathon refinery I was spending $200-225 a week on gas driving the Ram. I picked up a older saturn from my Dad that got avg. 34 mpg and saved myself $125-150 a week. Drove that thing until last summer when I picked up a liberty which uses more gas but I like it better. I am keeping the saturn around just in case I need to drive an econobox again.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 09:55 PM   #55
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I am sorry to dissapint you all, but darkness comes early this time of year, pics will be posted, very soon "

but today, in the day light, I learned that i am actually driving a Prizm, it has 4 cylinders! YAY!

I filled up last night. And today, with driveing to work and back ( over 60 miles) and stopping for a few drinks and then taking the ol lady out to dinner I am still on the big F!
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Exactly what powers do elected officials have that would allow them to directly control the price of an international traded commodity? The last thing you want is MORE government involvement in controling and setting prices. The only thing that can ever result from increased government intervention is higher prices. It has been proven time after time after time.

well it would help if they got their testicles out of their wifes purse and told the arabs to cram it. we'd survive being oil export is the foundation of their economy and I guarantee two things would result.
1. the price of oil would drop.
2. they sure as hell wouldn't want to kill us.

the only real answer for alternative fuel is to turn lies and empty political promises into useable energy.

stop and think how powerful the oil industry is. soooooo powerful, but that power falls just short of getting around the tree huggers to build new refineries and whatnot.

government should probably not try to fix oil prices. they should keep trying to tell us who we can marry, what rape victim can't have an abortion, and continue the insurance abuse in the health care industry.
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most foreign? is there really anything not-foreign about that car?
Nope, it's pretty much all foriegn to me. But until I can afford a good fucus or caliber or whatever chevy has out now, this is what I will drive.
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I crossed that bridge in '02 when I bought the Focus.
And I remember you tilling me then why that ws the right thing to do. If I listened and did that then, I could have $6-7K in the bank. Honeslty, that is for real, and could be more depending on the circumsances with family travel ime.
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I have been surfing the metro's for sale for a while.

I dd my 1/2 ton pickup and by my calculations of 100+ miles per day I figure that I can pay off a metro and cover the insurance in about 3-4 months of driving. After that it pays its own insurance and the trucks insurance.

As soon as money allows and the timing is right I will probably pick one up.
Man, it is not easy to get used to, let me tell you. I've had cars in the past, but bigger cars like Thunderbirds and AMC Eagles. So far, I hate the leg room, and I hate not getting "noticed" when I need to pass sombody. So, in reality, when going to a car like this (from a vlifted vehicle that was not afraid of some bumping or "rubins racing" ) patients is the key. You need to be prepaired to get good gas milage by downsizing and bing "slower on the road.
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Where are the pics of................

Chris and his focus?!
Shawn and his metro?!
Dana and his yugo?!
Dave, you're freaking me out man!
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