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Old December 23rd, 2007, 06:40 PM   #61
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1. I do right because it makes me and others happy, not because I am scared of going to hell.

2. I probably know more about christianity than a lot of christians. All the "facts" that christians report aren't facts but interpretations of events.

3. The reason I am sarcastic is because I don't take this so seriously. It is always the christians that need to start a post to ruffle some feathers.
1. If you understood the Bible and Christianity as you claimed, the you would understand the FOUNDATIONAL truth that eternal life in heaven is grated to the believer by faith, and more importantly, it is irrevocable. I don't do right to keep the good works scale heavy in the right direction, I do good because God has been so good to me.

2. You do? Maybe you will reveal that shortly.

3. I am sarcastic because I don't take atheists seriously. This is probably the second or third thread I have EVER started here. Most often, I reply to the posts and questions everyone else has, and there is no need to start my own. Just thought I would bring us back to reality, AGAIN.
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 06:42 PM   #62
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I'm sure the Egyptians, the Aztecs, etc all thought their gods were real too... They couldn't explain the sun, so they made a Sun God. They couldn't understand the rain, so they made a rain god. It has been that way for centuries. People that can't explain something make up fantastic stories of Gods that made these events take place. The more I study and learn, the more I realize that religion is just a way of circumventing the process of learning about the world around you.
The entire central point of Christianity is in the person of Jesus Christ. So did people make him up like you said? The difference is that Jesus showed up and said his message, he was not some item of the imagination. Your theory does not apply to Christianity.
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 06:57 PM   #63
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The bottom line is this: There is no dispute on what tektōn means, even if he was not specifically a carpenter, he would have been a craftsman of some other kind, but neither of which was kingly. Your accusation against the textual accuracy of the Bible does not hold water. Nice try though.
Actually there are many theologians that would argue against your little phrase that there is no dispute what tekton means. They have debated this and still do. Because the gospels had to be translated, there can be multiple meanings. I think they know quite a deal more than you even if you do go to church every Sunday.
I have answered every question that you have asked. I went back to previous threads and didn't notice a question I missed. If I did miss one so what. You didn't all my questions.
What about the gospels that were withheld from the church? Did you read these to better understand what happened? Why do they censor what you read? Because they want to control you and they are doing a good job so far. You buy it hook, line and sinker.
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Actually there are many theologians that would argue against your little phrase that there is no dispute what tekton means. They have debated this and still do. Because the gospels had to be translated, there can be multiple meanings. I think they know quite a deal more than you even if you do go to church every Sunday.
I have answered every question that you have asked. I went back to previous threads and didn't notice a question I missed. If I did miss one so what. You didn't all my questions.
What about the gospels that were withheld from the church? Did you read these to better understand what happened? Why do they censor what you read? Because they want to control you and they are doing a good job so far. You buy it hook, line and sinker.
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 07:12 PM   #65
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Actually there are many theologians that would argue against your little phrase that there is no dispute what tekton means. They have debated this and still do. Because the gospels had to be translated, there can be multiple meanings. I think they know quite a deal more than you even if you do go to church every Sunday.
I have answered every question that you have asked. I went back to previous threads and didn't notice a question I missed. If I did miss one so what. You didn't all my questions.
What about the gospels that were withheld from the church? Did you read these to better understand what happened? Why do they censor what you read? Because they want to control you and they are doing a good job so far. You buy it hook, line and sinker.
You have AGAIN skipped my questions, but I already know why, and you can remain in ignorance if you like, that is your choice.

I, on the other hand, have not backed down from ANYTHING you have brought to the table, and I have give answers with FACT.

I don't fully remember why they turned down some gospels, but they did, and there were reasons, which I would have to research to remember. We can go there if you want, start a new thread.

Friend, I will leave you alone from this point forward unelss you want to have a fair discussion and answer the questions about Jesus I have asked you four times over, plus all the stuff I just posted which you ignored.

I honestly wish you the best on your spiritual journey.
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