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Old December 15th, 2007, 02:19 PM   #1
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Default HELP! MikeSova come to JESUS!

I am declaring a virtual alter call.
I am looking for anyone who would like to help attempt to bring Mike Sova to know the lord! Not in an in your face or offensive manner like some do. But through sharing and examples. There is no possible way he can resist a thread like this one.

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Good luck.

I think that it is Un-christian to force your beleifs on someone.

Just my .02.
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Old December 15th, 2007, 02:53 PM   #3
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I think that it is Un-christian to force your beleifs on someone.

Just my .02.
Jesus is waiting for Mike. Someday Mike may find a situation with little hope and find his way to Jesus. You will never hear me "forcing" anything on anyone. I will just let them know that the door is always open.
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Old December 15th, 2007, 02:56 PM   #4
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Old December 15th, 2007, 03:10 PM   #5
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the good thing about christianity, is it's only our job to tell him about our faith, it's his call. dont be a dick and push it on him.
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Old December 15th, 2007, 03:47 PM   #6
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I want to shove my faith down sova's throat, hard.

E-alter call, I'll be on the e-steps ready to e-pray with you.
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Is there going to be any E-amazing grace and some E-preacher trying to use emtions for people to get saved? I would rather him find God after seeing the Christians in his life living as Christ did. Maybe even through a logical step instead of an Emotional decision. But....Being as it's about Sova, This is his style. So....You never know.

However, I don't agree with it. Alter calls are good, but often the people expect that the feeling they get that night/afternoon/morning will be with them all the time and if it's not, They are doing something wrong. I'm a Camping ministry guy, I see it happen and shy away from it as much as possible. I'm all about the Logical decision to accept Christ. Maybe we all could tell what Christ is doing in our lives and how that effects our lives instead of ramming Jesus down his throat. Done.
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Old December 15th, 2007, 05:05 PM   #8
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I am looking for anyone who would like to help attempt to bring Mike Sova to know the lord! Not in an in your face or offensive manner like some do. But through sharing and examples. There is no possible way he can resist a thread like this one.

God Bless
This is the way that I have tried to talk to Mr. Sova, but it is his desire to destroy all who believe in Jesus Christ, and I have to admit that I loose my temper every once in awhile.

Hey Mikey, how about we start with Prayer..............Lets say every night at 10pm we get on our knees and just pray for his salvation.

We don't want to offend someone with our nasty Christian language, you know by talking to much about Jesus on this forum.
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This is the way that I have tried to talk to Mr. Sova, but it is his desire to destroy all who believe in Jesus Christ, and I have to admit that I loose my temper every once in awhile.

Hey Mikey, how about we start with Prayer..............Lets say every night at 10pm we get on our knees and just pray for his salvation.

We don't want to offend someone with our nasty Christian language, you know by talking to much about Jesus on this forum.
Im in

How about you, Dave Kerwin?
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Old December 15th, 2007, 06:00 PM   #10
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Good luck.

I think that it is Un-christian to force your beleifs on someone.

Just my .02.
No forcing, just religous chat.
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Old December 15th, 2007, 06:08 PM   #11
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I think that your best bet is to start really slow and say things once in a while. You would scare him off if you drop a bomb and turn into a preacher.
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Old December 15th, 2007, 06:12 PM   #12
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the good thing about christianity, is it's only our job to tell him about our faith, it's his call. dont be a dick and push it on him.
Please read first post, this certainley is not pushing it on him. This a call to Christians that like helping others to share their relationship with Jesus. In hopes that someone might read this and be inspired. I welcome the comments, however your opion is that christianity is a job. Wrong, it's a gift and I want to give it to whoever will listen. Even if you and others call me names, or dislike my aproach. The theme on this site is that whoever starts the thread gets to guide the direction of the posts, so I am doing my part.

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I find this kinda funny coming from you Mikey
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Hey, even beer drinkin heathens can love Jesus.
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Old December 15th, 2007, 07:37 PM   #17
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Great quote...added to my sig.

I highly doubt anyone online would convince Sova to come to Christianity. It'll be through somebody he knows, respects, and appreciates, and also happens to be a Christian. I'll say a prayer for Sova, as well.

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Put him in jail. Everyone finds Jesus in jail.
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Here's my story.

I was raised in the United Church of Christ : German Evangelical. We were the type of family that went to church twice a year - Christmas and Easter. In 7th and 8th grade I did take confirmation class and learned a lot about the bible; but then upon entering High School I said "Is Christianity truth; and what about other religions". I did a LOT of reading and research which convinced me that Buddism, Hinduism, Mormon, Later-day Saints and several other one-offs DEFINITELY were man-made. I went to college and continued to be one of those "twice a year" Christians that affiliated myself with the religion, but had no personal relationship.

It took a miracle to get me on track. My first two years of college I spent learning every drinking game and rarely studying. My GPA sucked but half of MSU's campus knew my name. I came home after the first year to learn that I had an enlarged liver from drinking so much. On one occasion during my second year I was hauled off to the hospital in an ambulance from a party at a house I didn't know to have my stomach pumped after passing out in the bathroom into the toilet. It was a hell of a party life. I also have a permanent ear piercing in one ear where a girl got a stud red-hot with a lighter then twisted it into my ear lobe. I could hear the flesh sizzling like a steak as it went in. Then there was the kid we strapped to a bed and shaved his head. And those are only a few stories. I could fill my hard-drive with all the stories of my first two years of college.

My junior year of college I met a girl at home during Christmas break and came back telling my friends "I met the girl I'm going to marry". While dating her I went from partying daily to drinking on weekends only (and yes, I still drink and that is not against Christianity) and I started to focus on school and improve my grades. I also declared Biochemistry as a major. 1-1/2 years later during my senior year our relationship was rocky. She then came up to school and told me she was pregnant. I think it was then I really started to have a relationship with Christ as I was praying for direction A LOT.

I graduated. We got married. I got a great job (without even submitting an application). We bought a dog. We bought a house. Our son was born. We bought our first car. My wife started taking classes again. All in one year. When I think where my life could have been it is a miracle that everything fell into place. I don't have a giant nest-egg or a huge stock portfolio; but I thank God daily for all the blessings in my life. You see, there was no Church that "forced" Christianity on me. I spent personal time investigating and in the end it was a very personal experience that brought me to God. I currently don't belong to a denomination, but find it truely amazing how all the answers to problems in 2007 can be found in a book given to us so many thousand years ago from God. I only hope that everyone can find the peace of God in their life.

The song "Amazing grace" really rings true for me.

Amazing Grace
Words by John Newton 1779

Amazing Grace! How sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me!
I once was lost, but now am found
Was blind, but now I see.

'Twas Grace that taught my heart to fear,
And Grace my fears relieved.
How precious did that Grace appear
The hour I first believed.

Through many dangers, toils, and snares
I have already come.
'Tis Grace hath brought me safe thus far
And Grace will lead me home.

The Lord has promised good to me.
His Word my hope secures.
He will my shield and portion be
As long as life endures.

When we've been there ten thousand years
Bright shining as the sun,
We've no less days to sing God's praise
Than when we'd first begun.
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This is the way that I have tried to talk to Mr. Sova, but it is his desire to destroy all who believe in Jesus Christ, and I have to admit that I loose my temper every once in awhile.
Saying things like this is very unchristian like. YOU don't even know Mr. Sova and since I know him well I can say with 100% certainty the his desire is not to destroy all who believe in Jesus Christ.

What you posted makes you seem like the wack job he believes you are.

and yes, I pray for Mike. At the same time there will be no pushing Mike to the Lord. God will be the only one to reach him. He is smart enough to do research and make his own desicions and I hope that includes the Lord at the end.
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