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Old December 13th, 2007, 05:46 PM   #1
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Default Yellow Top Optimas

Maybe this ought to be in general tech but the Pub gets better mileage.

Have a thread going on PBB

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...=1#post7608281

I seem to remember folks talking about Yellow Tops and the return hassles/warranty headaches they had.

Anyways mine are dead after a year. What is the official GL4x4 scoop on this subject ?
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Old December 13th, 2007, 06:07 PM   #2
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I had/have the same issue as that post. Mines a bit older than a year but since last winter my starts are very weak. I am gonna give the trickle a shot, but when it finally goes I will go with another brand.

shit the last battery I had was a 7 year old kirkland (costco) generic battery and I replaced it by mistake (turned out to be a bad alt)

I even ran my winch of the side terminals with that one, and that is supposed to kill bateries.

Im done with fancy batteries, the so-called cheap ones I have used seem to last the longest. I have had issues with high-end interstates on our plow trucks, screw that prorated crap, I just want something that will last...
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Old December 13th, 2007, 06:08 PM   #3
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I didn't read the Pirate thread, but I did some research on them last year. It seems people use the deep cycle yellow tops as starting batteries and they are failing early.

There are a couple of suspected causes.

1- as a start battery, you never discharge the battery enough and just keep topping it off. They are designed to be discharged (to some extent) then recharged.

2- Gell cell batteries are a little picky when it comes to re-charging. Older or less efficient charging systems may actually cause premature failure.

I have a red top and have had no issues what so ever.

I dunno, given the choice I would probably just get the interstate gell deep cycle.
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Old December 13th, 2007, 06:13 PM   #4
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I didn't read the Pirate thread, but I did some research on them last year. It seems people use the deep cycle yellow tops as starting batteries and they are failing early.

There are a couple of suspected causes.

1- as a start battery, you never discharge the battery enough and just keep topping it off. They are designed to be discharged (to some extent) then recharged.

2- Gell cell batteries are a little picky when it comes to re-charging. Older or less efficient charging systems may actually cause premature failure.

I have a red top and have had no issues what so ever.

I dunno, given the choice I would probably just get the interstate gell deep cycle.

Good thought and good sense. But Optima reccomends the Yellow Top for trail rigs.

Maybe I need to get stuck more often and use the winch more ?
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Old December 13th, 2007, 06:17 PM   #5
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Or not be like me and work on it all the time :tonka:
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Old December 13th, 2007, 06:23 PM   #6
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I had dual yellow tops on my CJ for 4 years and I had no issues
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Old December 13th, 2007, 06:26 PM   #7
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Good thought and good sense. But Optima reccomends the Yellow Top for trail rigs.
I know, that's why I was surprised when people were having problems with them. I dunno??
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Old December 13th, 2007, 06:31 PM   #8
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been running red tops in all my vehicles for years no problems!
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Old December 13th, 2007, 06:40 PM   #9
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Had a yellow top in my TJ for 8 years. No issues until I started driving it very infrequently. Probably just needed a battery maintainer, but I replaced it with a brand new yellow top that I got for $75. Will try to recharge the old yellow top in the future. I have a red top in my xterra. I have been very happy with them all.
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Old December 13th, 2007, 07:16 PM   #10
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Whats is strange is that some folks have had good luck while others not.

Seems (?) that the older ones are lasting longer then the new.......

I`ll try Advance Auto and see what they can do. Not holding my hopes to high though.
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Old December 13th, 2007, 07:25 PM   #11
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if you have your sales reciept then they will replace it for free. optima covers it up to 5 years. i have a red top in my ranger and bronco i swap it between cause im broke and cant affored another one but if you read teh lables carefully the red top is the cranking battery and the yellow is more for accesories leaning toward winches and lights and stereos. like jeepr said they are two completely different batteres. the red top isnt' a full gel battery it still have some liquid in it and the yellow is complete gel battery. dunno what the difference is but its what i read about them. i was also told by a battery salesman from interstate is that the bigger the battery the more defects it has inside and is more likely to fail. so a smaller battery with more cranking amps will last longer if maintained properly. i had an interstate in my 85 chevy and it lasted almost 10 yrs til the motor locked up.
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Old December 13th, 2007, 07:28 PM   #12
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I had an orange top in my WRX for 5 years and never had any trouble.
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I have been running dual Optima yellow tops in mine for at least 5 yrs with no issues.
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Old December 13th, 2007, 08:04 PM   #14
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Do they show any signs of damage? Just wondering, but have a feeling if they have been sitting a long time, that may be the cause. Battery tender is the way to go on trail rigs, imho.
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Old December 13th, 2007, 08:15 PM   #15
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I run 1 yellow and 1 red and have had no problems, Both are 5 years old now.
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I went through three yellow tops, murrays stopped carrying them because the new ones are junk and were having a huge % of them returned, they swapped mine out for an "orbital" and its worked perfect.
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Old December 13th, 2007, 08:52 PM   #17
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I have been running a yellow top for the last three years, and no problems at all
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Old December 13th, 2007, 09:02 PM   #18
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I've been running red tops for many years on and off road without any problems. I have a yellow in a plow Jeep that's 2 years old and it's still going strong.
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Old December 13th, 2007, 09:07 PM   #19
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Optima quality has gone DRASTICALLY downhill in the past few years.
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Optima's come back Quite often at Autozone, i've trickle charged 2 Yellow tops back to life, but in general they seem shitty.


Red tops are only slightly better
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