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Old December 7th, 2007, 12:31 PM   #1
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I started this new thread because it's a diffent question.

I have a 4x4 ZF trans in my truck. Should I buy the BW1356 t-case and put it in my 2wd truck in anticipation of 4x4ing it later or just buy the ZF driveline brake.

This truck will only be a tow rig but I thought having 4x4 would be cool. I do live in a hilly part of the US.

Later I would buy ford D44 for up front and then well lots of other stuff.

Right now I would just have to buy the t-case and get a new rear drive shaft. I have to buy a new rear DS right now anyways because the one on it is a complete hack job.
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yes, and I have all the parts you need out of my 90 Bronco full-size :tonka:
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Old December 7th, 2007, 12:48 PM   #3
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yes, and I have all the parts you need out of my 90 Bronco full-size :tonka:
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I started this new thread because it's a diffent question.

I have a 4x4 ZF trans in my truck. Should I buy the BW1356 t-case and put it in my 2wd truck in anticipation of 4x4ing it later or just buy the ZF driveline brake.

This truck will only be a tow rig but I thought having 4x4 would be cool. I do live in a hilly part of the US.

Later I would buy ford D44 for up front and then well lots of other stuff.

Right now I would just have to buy the t-case and get a new rear drive shaft. I have to buy a new rear DS right now anyways because the one on it is a complete hack job.
I think a 44 will be too small for your 250; most people put a 60 in; you might even be able to find a TTB50 for cheap...
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Old December 7th, 2007, 02:21 PM   #5
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I think a 44 will be too small for your 250; most people put a 60 in; you might even be able to find a TTB50 for cheap...
Do you say this because of the weight of the truck or the width of the axles? I forgot that I'll need something up front that is an 8 lug.
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I think the width and the weight - the older f250s that had 44's never had 1500# of motor sitting over them.
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ohio has hills???
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Old December 7th, 2007, 04:05 PM   #8
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Ever been to southern Ohio? There's quite a few down there on the Appalachian Plateau.

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that kinda looks like my backyard

So I was over on powerstoke.org and they said that the only manual behind the 7.3L was the ZF5 in and then ZF6 in the newer years. And the only T-case was the BW 1356 so . . . I can search 133" WB 4x4 7.3L with Manual Trans and get the correct Drive Shaft!!!


And then look for a TTB60 in the spring! double woot
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Old December 7th, 2007, 05:12 PM   #10
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And then look for a TTB60 in the spring! double woot
I thought the big TTB was a 50 and the solid axle 60 was used in the 1-tons(?)
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I thought the big TTB was a 50 and the solid axle 60 was used in the 1-tons(?)
Beats me. . . I thought you miss typed when you put 50 in there instead of 60

yeah, I need to do much more research!
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The 3/4 ton TTB is D50. Look at the "Dana axle" sticky in the axle tech section.
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I'll look at that site you just posted but from what I've been reading it's a direct bolt in.

Thanks again for all the sugguestions and advice scoots!!
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I'll look at that site you just posted but from what I've been reading it's a direct bolt in.

Thanks again for all the sugguestions and advice scoots!!

Not quite a direct bolt-in, there's some cutting of the frame involved, i.e. front shackle mounts and the shock "towers".
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I was out crawling around under the front of my truck, an I think a TTB50 would be a bolt-in ordeal.

I doubt I"ll ever do it to mine - too much work for a truck I only plan keeping until 250k (three more years, hopefully)
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I have a TTB 50 in my back yard with a 4:10, also have a 1356 T case. If you bought a shackle reverse kit, there is no need to mod the frame. You would just need the rear spring mount, which i have. Also have a 6" lift.
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Dang - I thought they used radius arms on the 50.
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Dang - I thought they used radius arms on the 50.
So did I. I had no idea it came with leafs

FSU motorhead if it's still around in the spring want to sell it as a package deal and help me install it

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