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Old December 5th, 2007, 02:43 PM   #41
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look i found some nice two tractor in halminton i whould like to keept open but this is not the way to do it and thoses arent slated to close anytime soon and i always am willing to soport trail use where toys for tots or salvation amry only comes ocne a year
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Old December 5th, 2007, 02:57 PM   #42
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GLFWDA is a NON-PROFIT it is NOT a club it is an assocation. They fight to keep trails open, rather then fighting to get money toward cancer research.

It is not 'giving it to ourselves', yes we could directly benefit (if trails open, or stay open), but so would the rest of the great lakes areas and communities in them through the added tourism that a nice 4wd trail system would draw.

Basically it is a fund raiser for EITHER group since you have a bunch of people getting together to pool the money and donate it in a lump sum.



Another? Count the number in Michigan, and count the ones you would go to on a regular basis. Drummond, Silver Lake, the Mounds, and parts of the West Branch/Rose City trail system? That is about it.

I understand the need for donating to Cancer, the Veterans, and other types of charities, however OHV trail use is a charity case and in great need these days for this state as well. Snowmobilers get what they want because they put the money into it, 4x4 people honestly don't, touch a snowmobile trail with a quad or dirtbike and watch them get outraged, try to close a snowmobile trail and see what happens, try to CLOSE a jeep/truck trail and see how many people respond to it (not many). (this has been getting better lately though)

Call me selfish I guess, I dontate to the other causes through the year, but with an event like PG, you could easily raise a SUBSTANTIAL amount of money and divide it win/win in my book.

I am just viewing my point on the matter. I did not mean to start anyone defending one group over another. Weather it be a club or a assocation or a Team effort to better our sport.
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Old December 5th, 2007, 02:58 PM   #43
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Look I found some nice two tracks in Hamilton I would like to keep open but this is not the way to do it. Those aren't slated to close anytime soon. I always am willing to support trail use, Toys for Tots or Salvation Army only comes once a year
I think I ran that through the translator correctly....

Toys for Tots and the Salvation Army also take donations all year long, they just get the most press at Christmas. PG donations are done in September/October to my knowledge. Either way anything can be done any time of the year, the problem is greenies and snowmobilers actually do their trail support/lobbying all year, count the number of people supporting GLFWDA versus the number on this board, thats what 10% of the people?

I know I probably sound like a dick and sound like I am preaching, but I don't have the cash to travel out of state to wheel, I would rather try to ensure we have some trails close by still to play on - legally.

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I am just viewing my point on the matter. I did not mean to start anyone defending one group over another. Weather it be a club or a assocation or a Team effort to better our sport.

I know what you were saying/trying to do, I was just taking an opportunity to run with it

It just seems that GLFWDA has a 'club' type stigma for some reason, versus a the stigma of a good thing, or people trying to help out our hobby that is in danger of not existing in 20-30 years in this state. I know bridges were burned in the past, but bridges can be rebuilt, and they can be rebuilt better and stronger then before with the right combination of people.

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Old December 5th, 2007, 03:38 PM   #44
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Call me selfish I guess, I dontate to the other causes through the year, but with an event like PG, you could easily raise a SUBSTANTIAL amount of money and divide it win/win in my book.

Sorry for being honest.

And IMHO, a $1000-$2000 donation isn't going to substantially make any difference in Michigan.
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Old December 5th, 2007, 03:51 PM   #45
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Sorry for being honest.

And IMHO, a $1000-$2000 donation isn't going to substantially make any difference in Michigan.
I just joined recently, I do not know the operating budget, but I am willing to bet that its 10-14 k tops / year based on membership ( I could be very wrong)

2k would be 1/5 to 1/7 of the current operating expense, quite a bit in my mind, 2K more toward getting the word out.

2k would do a lot more for GL then 2K would for the larger Salvation Army/Red Cross/St Jude

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Old December 5th, 2007, 04:26 PM   #46
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I started this thread to get ideas for the committee to think about for who to donate to. I do not want it to desolve into a he said/she said arguement. If there is a reason you wish me to consider your request, please PM it to me and I will read it there.

Please, lets keep this as suggestions only, not a debate. Thanks, and keep them coming, will keep this open for a few more days then go from there.
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Old December 6th, 2007, 12:30 PM   #47
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I like Veterans and hospice, and the others that were mentioned sound good also

Would like to know more,

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Any others???????
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http://www.kittenrescue.org/

Kitten Rescue saves the lives of over 1,000 cats and kittens every year. Because we don't shy away from sick and injured kitties, we have huge vet bills. We need your help! Any amount you donate will help us save lives.

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Old December 7th, 2007, 10:46 AM   #50
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SIDS group of Michigan

(Sudden Infant Death Syndrome)

I have helped them on various occasions. Great group of people! The Michigan group is basically a local support group for parents and families who have lost a baby to SIDS. They also fund research.
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Old December 7th, 2007, 10:46 AM   #51
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X2 on Make A Wish. They have a Michigan chapter, http://www.wishmich.org/.
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Old January 7th, 2008, 01:08 PM   #54
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are you still looking for recomendations? I'm pretty sure you said it was going to be "Children with hairloss and BLUE ribbon" but you edited the post

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At this time, we have narrowed it down to a couple of different charities. We have decided on the Children with Hairloss as our 'public' charity for a number of reasons. As the club in charge of the Pig Gig, we voted against GLFWDA at this time. We discussed this in full, and have our reasons. Not wishing to cause any or further problems for GLFWDA, we choose not to make these reasons public.


Gig will be going on this September as scheduled, so we are good to go.

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Old January 7th, 2008, 02:52 PM   #57
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The children for hair loss, do they accept hair donations or just money? The reason I ask Is I shave my hair off once a month and I could collect it. Sure its not 6 inch's long but it is a start
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The children for hair loss, do they accept hair donations or just money? The reason I ask Is I shave my hair off once a month and I could collect it. Sure its not 6 inch's long but it is a start
They do collect hair, however, I believe it needs to be a certain length to work for them. They have a website that explains it all. They did attend the Gig last year so that people could see where their money was going to and what would be accomplished by the money donated.
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Why not just send them to Immortal?
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How about a michigan based land use non profit?

Always wondered why you guys funneled the money AWAY from michigan and to United.
This would be to much Right to do something like that.

Who needs Michigan to wheel anymore
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