Go Back   Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > 4x4 Land Use > Rules, Regulations, Trail, and ORV Park Chat
GL4x4 Live! GL4x4 Casino







Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old February 17th, 2008, 09:12 PM   #1
Trail_Fanatic
Member since 1994
 
Trail_Fanatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-25-06
Location: Muskegon and Oceana Counties
Posts: 3,175
iTrader: (0)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default Comments on Jumin Jackpine Project

The Project:




Our comments:
January 6, 2008
In regards to: Jumpin Jackpine KW Project
Paul D. Thompson
5761 N. Skeel Ave.
Oscoda, Mi 48750
Dear Sir,
Please accept the following comments for the Jumpin Jackpine KW Project:
1) Projects involving the transportation system should never be released for Scoping at any time other than the summer months. Winter snow obscures the road system making it impossible to gather meaningful and accurate data. Spring thaw can leave the more rustic roads sensitive to rutting and degradation. Fall brings the opening of the various hunting seasons and the Forest should be left for their enjoyment.
Please postpone the Scoping of this project until summer of 2008 so meaningful research can be conducted on the road system considered for obliteration.

2) The maps provided are too poor to conduct meaningful analysis. It is extremely difficult to discern which roads are under consideration for obliteration.
Please provide better quality maps of the Project Area before Scoping during the summer of 2008.
3) No road names or numbers are listed for Forest Roads on the first map of the set.
Please provide adequate labeling of roads under consideration for obliteration.

Because of the above issues with the Jumpin Jackpine KW Project, GLFWDA is not able to provide substantive comments about which roads to obliterate and which provide our members with their desired recreational experience. Please take corrective action before proceeding with this Project.


Sincerely,

Chair, Land Use Committee, GLFWDA

If anyone knows the area in question, please contact me.
Thank you
Trail_Fanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 17th, 2008, 09:20 PM   #2
jeepfreak81
81 inches of fun
 
jeepfreak81's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-10-05
Location: Lennon, Mi
Posts: 12,152
iTrader: (21)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to jeepfreak81 Send a message via MSN to jeepfreak81 Send a message via Yahoo to jeepfreak81
Default

I know it very vaguely, we have a lake lot about 3 miles from Sand Lake and they have been clear cutting like crazy in that area. We used to ride the snowmobiles and motorcycles when I was a kid up there but I got out of it.
jeepfreak81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 17th, 2008, 09:25 PM   #3
Trail_Fanatic
Member since 1994
 
Trail_Fanatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-25-06
Location: Muskegon and Oceana Counties
Posts: 3,175
iTrader: (0)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I need to know which roads that are proposed for closure are two tracks and if they have any 4x4 features on them.
Trail_Fanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 17th, 2008, 09:32 PM   #4
jeepfreak81
81 inches of fun
 
jeepfreak81's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-10-05
Location: Lennon, Mi
Posts: 12,152
iTrader: (21)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to jeepfreak81 Send a message via MSN to jeepfreak81 Send a message via Yahoo to jeepfreak81
Default

Holy crap... looking at Google earth that is right up the road from our lot 3 or 4 miles tops....

What do you need to know? I never ventured out there by 4x4, I thought everything there was illegal, that area that I am looking at on GE easily could be 2 tracks though.

I wouldn't be able to check until summer though, easy enough when I take the jet ski up there.
jeepfreak81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 17th, 2008, 09:34 PM   #5
jeepfreak81
81 inches of fun
 
jeepfreak81's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-10-05
Location: Lennon, Mi
Posts: 12,152
iTrader: (21)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to jeepfreak81 Send a message via MSN to jeepfreak81 Send a message via Yahoo to jeepfreak81
Default

This is the area they are talking about (the one near our property)

44°19'57.46"n

83°38'11.08"w



This other is a bit North (Oscoda) Not familiar with it much at all though.

44°25'29.22"N
83°38'43.58"W

Last edited by jeepfreak81; February 17th, 2008 at 09:49 PM.
jeepfreak81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 18th, 2008, 06:09 AM   #6
kb8ymf
Not as old as Whiterhino
 
kb8ymf's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-01-06
Location: Dryden,Mi.
Posts: 1,057
iTrader: (5)
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trail_Fanatic View Post
I need to know which roads that are proposed for closure are two tracks and if they have any 4x4 features on them.
Pat,
Your comments about waiting till summer is a vald one. I've run that area quite a few years ago. I mainly remember it being mostly flat but we should review it to make sure. There is some elevation in the area.
I noticed that wanted to use fire to regenerate the jackpine.....deja vu Mack Lake. They made a pretty big mess way back then. Wonder how many have forgot?
jim-kb8ymf
kb8ymf is online now   Reply With Quote
Old February 18th, 2008, 07:38 AM   #7
whiterhino
I'm not old, honest...
 
whiterhino's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-07-06
Location: Davisburg MI
Posts: 20,678
iTrader: (21)
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Default

The Mack Lake fire got within about 10 miles of our place so it was never a fear for us. But those around Mack lake............

I think that area is pretty flat with no 4x4 terrain. The jack pine area is flat & it doesn't start to get elevation changes till it gets further south into the hardwoods.
whiterhino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 18th, 2008, 07:49 AM   #8
CreativeFab
used to be Ironman
 
CreativeFab's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-01-05
Location: midland
Posts: 3,206
iTrader: (35)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Steve Gradowski is familiar with this area Im sure, he has a cottage in Sand Lake

Also, doesnt D. Rainey live up there?
CreativeFab is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > 4x4 Land Use > Rules, Regulations, Trail, and ORV Park Chat
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:53 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright 2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Copyright 2005 - 2012 Cracker Enterprises - Powered by Linux
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=
Page generated in 0.13426 seconds with 28 queries