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Old November 16th, 2007, 10:41 PM   #1
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Default Waggy axle gear ratio

What gears "normally" came in a Waggy?
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Old November 16th, 2007, 11:00 PM   #2
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Depended GREATLY


Most common were 2.73's and 3.73's with a little of other stuff thrown in.

I don't think anything much lower than 3.73 was "standard" possibly special order



Spro probably would know more
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Old November 16th, 2007, 11:01 PM   #3
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What year Wagoneer are you asking about?

In the 80's it was 2:73 and 3:31 for towing was typical.
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Old November 17th, 2007, 10:02 AM   #4
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mine had 3.31's in 'em
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Old November 17th, 2007, 11:00 AM   #5
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there were also 3:07's
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Old November 17th, 2007, 11:55 AM   #6
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2.72-3.31 were the most common starting in the 80's. 3.54's and 3.73's were more frequently found in the 70's with the 3.73's being more of a J-truck thing.. I have found 4.09's in a set of QT WT's that were said to be from a Chief.

4.27 was not uncommon in the earlier 70's, but you end up with a lower spline count after you go back far enought and its less worthwhile to raid them for gears/carriers.
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Old November 17th, 2007, 12:12 PM   #7
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I'm really looking for what the factory had in mind for these AMC V8's running rpms. Seems becuase there was not overdrive available for these, that most of the stuff was running 2.72-3.31's. Just getting and idea about my possible tranny swap with this 304 and what rpm's I need for the road (freeway driving to the trails). I'm more than happy with 4.10's with my granny low T18, just seeing what an overdrive would do for me on the freeway.
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Old November 18th, 2007, 03:03 PM   #8
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Well, those transmissions had the same 1:1 top gear that your T-18 does. What rpm are you running at on the highway at what speed?
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Old November 18th, 2007, 03:21 PM   #9
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I'm at 4.10's with 35's so at 70 I'm cranking at 2800-2900 rpm. I drive this thing to the trails, I don't trailer, and I drive it every once in a while cause I love driving it. I can easliy do 80, but rather not, 70 -75 mph is nice, but would love to get the rpms down. A 6 hour drive at 2900 rpm's is just too much, and it's is horrible with the gas milage. I love the combination of 4.10's and the granny, I've never felt like I needed anything any lower. I have an early chevy 4500 that I want to use (essentially the same granny ratio), but it will be costly to install. So I'm just trying to figure out if it will be worth it, or if it will drop my rpms toooo much, I am not about to regear these axles to 4.56 so I can comfortabley have an overdrive with good highway rpms. Didn't know if 2000-2100 rpm would be too low for the 304 on the freeway.
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Didn't know if 2000-2100 rpm would be too low for the 304 on the freeway.
Is that what the 4500's OD will actually drop it too by the math? I'm thinking just under 2500 would be ideal. What have you done to your motor?
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Old November 18th, 2007, 03:35 PM   #11
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i have a 91 waggy axle and wondering what gears it may have. dont have it in just wondering if i need to regear b4 it goes in.
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just wondering if i need to regear b4 it goes in.

Well I guess you'll have to find out what gears it has in it, won't you?


I would plan on regearing.
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oo im going to regear but just wondering if it has 373s then i can run it for a bit b4 regearing. thats all.
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oo im going to regear but just wondering if it has 373s then i can run it for a bit b4 regearing. thats all.
'91 Waggy?


Not bloody likely.
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Is that what the 4500's OD will actually drop it too by the math? I'm thinking just under 2500 would be ideal. What have you done to your motor?
Yeah, pretty much. What I have is a mild 304 with and edel performer and holley truck avenger. And if I ever blow this up I'll be putting in a 360.
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I didn't see 3.08s listed, but those were the non-tow package gears for 70s V8 FSJs. 3.54 was V8 with tow package gearing.

In the 80s they went to 2.72 for V8 non-tow package and 3.31 for V8 tow package.

Back when I used to read the IFSJA mailing list, 2.72 and 3.08 were by far the most common.
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