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Old November 14th, 2007, 06:15 PM   #21
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any benifits swapping out a 44 with a 50? I have access to a 3/4 ton and was thinking about swapping out axels for better towing. ( 3.55's to 4.10's)?
but I've heard the 50 is a turd.
You cant swap a D50 out for a D44. The TTB arms are different lengths and the pivot points and possibly crossmember would have to be changed as well. You can upgrade to the D50 stub shaft. When I had TTB it was fun to go out wheelin and for the most part it held up to mild abuse with 33's. I did break every shaft and every joint at one point or another but it got the job done. Having upgraded to a solid 44 I have no complaints. I planned my SAS with minimal modification and all custom fabbed parts. I'm running 79 coil buckets with the axle relocated about 1" forward, 80-96 F250 shock mounts for eye to eye shocks, 11" extended radius arms, a custom track bar and interegrated radius arm mounts in my transmission mount/skidplate. There's no right way to do an SAS but there are plenty of options. One advantage for sure is being able to turn the wheels and flex the truck out without worrying about binding shafts.

With a rear shackle flip and cage coils it'll ramp 1000 anyway you want and TTB certainly cant do that if you're talking about great flex
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Old November 14th, 2007, 07:58 PM   #22
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There wasn't binding when i broke the slip shaft or the u-joints, the u-joints were only a year old, i think they had jsut fatigued enough.
How sure are you on that??? They typically start to bind with minimal suspension flex....eitherway, still sux they broke
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Old November 14th, 2007, 08:17 PM   #23
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TTB certainly cant do that if you're talking about great flex

O'RLY?????





And on the notion of binding joints - you clearance them all once, use a limiting strap to limit down travel and bumps to limit up travel, and you'll never ever have a problem. Period.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 11:20 AM   #24
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How sure are you on that??? They typically start to bind with minimal suspension flex....eitherway, still sux they broke
Well I was on flat path, non maintained road, with about 2.5ft of wet slushy snow. I couldn't beeleive it broke....sucked worse not having service and almost wiping out on my roof trying to get service to call someone.









that ramp is great.



I agree it can flex it just isn't going to hold up after so long, and in the end it's still a half ton axle.

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Old November 15th, 2007, 11:29 AM   #25
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Well I was on flat path, non maintained road, with about 2.5ft of wet slushy snow. I couldn't beeleive it broke....sucked worse not having service and almost wiping out on my roof trying to get service to call someone.
Yeah, that's shitty man....I guess it's just "luck of the draw" if you want to call it that I've had more than my fair share of shit break when it definitly shouldn't have

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that ramp is great.



I agree it can flex it just isn't going to hold up after so long, and in the end it's still a half ton axle.
yeah, that ramp is quite comical.

I will agree with you on the latter though - in the end it is still just a half ton axle. But for someone looking to mildly wheel, it's fine for that.....

If I were to do a SAS I would only do a 60 - why go through the hassle and stay with a 44 (or even worse a 30 that ppl put into rangers) if you really plan to wheel the hell out of it? Additionally, TTB doesn't lend itself well to engine swaps as the motor swapped in typically weighs more (in the case of rangers) and you'll have a hell of a time finding the right coil to keep you in alignment.....

TTB does have its downs, there is no way denying that - but so does SAS.....its more of a 'how big is your budget and what do you want to do' kind of thing
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Have you guys ever watch a Tough Truck competition...........the last one I was at, they all ran TTB's. They were getting 10 to 12 feet of air on some of the jumps.
There were even two rigs that were the f150 (79ish) model, that had been changed over to the TTB.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 11:39 AM   #27
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Yea, no offense Todd, but I just couldn't see going to a D44 sas. I know everyone has their own reasons, mainly money, but I would just stop wheeling like I am now so I don't break things so I can save up. Yea it sucks and is boring but I want to put in something that is going to last and something I can beat on without worry like I do now.

And this thread seems to be going the way every TTB vs SAS thread does in every forum on Al gores interweb
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And this thread seems to be going the way every TTB vs SAS thread does in every forum on Al gores interweb

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Old November 15th, 2007, 04:32 PM   #29
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I dont wheel my truck a whole lot any more but it's nice to have a decent alignment everytime I get into it, it rides a lot nicer now as well. I dont need a ton of flex and I dont need a ton of wheel travel. I wish I had a D60 since hard wheeling on a 44 with 35's just breaks parts but I wouldnt swap it back to TTB.
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And this thread seems to be going the way every TTB vs SAS thread does in every forum on Al gores interweb
Yeah, but look at all of us popping up from around the state on here.
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