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Old November 9th, 2007, 09:02 AM   #1
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how do I go about verifying gears as being a matched set and what ratio they are outside of the axle of course. I got an install appt, but I want to make sure I have all the necessary parts and the parts are correct.
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Old November 9th, 2007, 09:06 AM   #2
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what do you mean? gears are in the box? or in the housing?

in-box: count ring gear and pinion gear teeth and do the math....ring gear/pinion gear = ratio

in axle: spin axle exactly 1 revolution and count the number of times the driveshaft spins...ie. if it spins just under 4 times they are probably 3.92's, 3 3/4 times= 3.73's and so on



edit: probably stamped on housing or in the VIN, but this is the quickest if you dont know what the digits represent
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in box.

Also, is there typically a number of shims, crush sleeves, bearings in an install kit?
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Look at the edge of the ring gear and find the string of numbers. You will see a pair of numbers sometimes separated by a hyphen, usually near the end of the string. These last two numbers are the number of teeth on the r&p set (like 41-10 = 4.10, see pic below). Do the math on both sets and make sure the ratios are at least within .01 of each other.


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never installed gears before....but the one kit that I got (just needed the shims) did have an assortment of various items.
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Picture added. The circled symbol is just Precision Gear's ID stamping.
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Thanks mark. Gonna do that tonight when i get home. I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything.
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The shims in a master kit will vary, but yes depending on the axle there will be a lot. Also as mark pointed out there may be some identification marks. Always make sure it is the gear ratio you ordered. also the will be a number engraved on the pinion head and the ring gear ie: 892, this is to confirm that they have been lapped as a matched set. If there are no identical #'s on the ring gear and pinion ( tooth ratio don't count ie: 41-10 = 4.10) then they are not a matched set.
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alright, my gear sets are matched so thats good. I'm going to assume the 2 install/bearing kits I got are complete as well since they're still sealed from timken.
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