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Old November 4th, 2007, 11:53 AM   #1
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I have just aquired a 77 D44 HD front, it is a eight lug axle, and i was wondering if i could use a regular D44 five lug hub. because im lookin at running a 9" rear b/c i have no real need for a ff one ton rear end
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Old November 4th, 2007, 12:19 PM   #2
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What was the 44 in? Is it a Ford with the big dual piston caliper? If so I believe you have to change the caliper mounting bracket and spindle, as well as the hub and caliper.

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Old November 4th, 2007, 02:22 PM   #3
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What was the 44 in? Is it a Ford with the big dual piston caliper? If so I believe you have to change the caliper mounting bracket and spindle, as well as the hub and caliper.
yes, it has the dual piston caliper on it. it was in a 77 3/4 ton f-250, leaf sprung
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Renegade is correct. You can change it all over, but you may very well spend less money on the matching D60 rear than you would buying all the 5x5.5" parts (if you don't already have them.) PM me if you don't have them yet.
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Old November 4th, 2007, 07:33 PM   #5
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hmm, looks like im gonna run the 60 rear, just for the ease of doing things. but i do have lots of time to think this one over...
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Old November 4th, 2007, 07:38 PM   #6
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knuckles out from a 70's ford would be a direct swap and they also use the same axle shafts.
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Old November 4th, 2007, 07:42 PM   #7
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knuckles out from a 70's ford would be a direct swap and they also use the same axle shafts.
ok, cool i totally forgot to ask about the shafts, b/c i need one:tonka: so, i can use regular d44 shafts in this HD axle
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As long as they are from a ford dana 44
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well, ya my bad:tonka:
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I just built this exact axle.

Superwinch lockouts are $170 at my cost, which isn't normal price.

Regular D44 shafts did not fit in mine, only D44 HD ones. I tried to use a chevy short side inner and it didn't fit the splines.

I would avoid this axle, or go back to what spro said and convert.

Doing the brakes is a real fucking gem, too.
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I just built this exact axle.

Superwinch lockouts are $170 at my cost, which isn't normal price.

Regular D44 shafts did not fit in mine, only D44 HD ones. I tried to use a chevy short side inner and it didn't fit the splines.

I would avoid this axle, or go back to what spro said and convert.

Doing the brakes is a real fucking gem, too.
ya, i think i saw that its a certian year range that the regular shafts didnt work, im gonna have to go back and look at that. how is it such a 'gem', theyre disc
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ya, i think i saw that its a certian year range that the regular shafts didnt work, im gonna have to go back and look at that. how is it such a 'gem', theyre disc
To put the pads in, you have to remove the rotor. Teh gayness design.

it takes far less time to change the caliper than the pads.
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that dont make too much sense, so im gonna check that out tomarrow haha
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Also, lockouts are FAWKING EXPENSIVE!!!!!
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I have two of those axles and not one do you have to remove the rotors to do pad changes. If you use the hd outers you have to use the expensive lockouts. If you change the outers to 1/2 ton stuff you can use regular lockouts. It has been my experiance that the only differences between the hd's and regular are: The hd's have thicker tubes and everything from the knuckles out is bigger.
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I have two of those axles and not one do you have to remove the rotors to do pad changes. If you use the hd outers you have to use the expensive lockouts. If you change the outers to 1/2 ton stuff you can use regular lockouts. It has been my experiance that the only differences between the hd's and regular are: The hd's have thicker tubes and everything from the knuckles out is bigger.
Whelp, seeing as how I couldn't manage to have the rotors bolted on and tightened down, and then try to assemble the pads in the pad slides without the caliper bolted down, it was easier for me to pop the rotor off and put the slide over the rotor, and then push it all into place and retighten the rotor down.


My $0.02. Didnt say it was the proper way, just the way I found easiest.
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I have two of those axles and not one do you have to remove the rotors to do pad changes. If you use the hd outers you have to use the expensive lockouts. If you change the outers to 1/2 ton stuff you can use regular lockouts. It has been my experiance that the only differences between the hd's and regular are: The hd's have thicker tubes and everything from the knuckles out is bigger.
yes, thats what im lookin for info wise, thanks. i think my buddy said it was more like a 60-ish housing
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Whelp, seeing as how I couldn't manage to have the rotors bolted on and tightened down, and then try to assemble the pads in the pad slides without the caliper bolted down, it was easier for me to pop the rotor off and put the slide over the rotor, and then push it all into place and retighten the rotor down.


My $0.02. Didnt say it was the proper way, just the way I found easiest.
interesting...it looks like to me, that two big bolts, and a little bolt and plate on the btm of the caliper hold it down
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yes, thats what im lookin for info wise, thanks. i think my buddy said it was more like a 60-ish housing
If you look on Mr. N's site, you'll see pictures of what the actual differences are.


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interesting...it looks like to me, that two big bolts, and a little bolt and plate on the btm of the caliper hold it down
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interesting...it looks like to me, that two big bolts, and a little bolt and plate on the btm of the caliper hold it down
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