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Old November 1st, 2007, 04:55 PM   #21
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I would stay away from a dually front axle .

Chevy seems to be a little easier to set up and get parts, but may not matter.

You can also flip a dana 300 if you find a Ford 60
Somewhat helpful. keeps to the topic of the thread

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pete you need a 80 or later chevy. like you are really going to work on your jeep!!
More specific. gets right to the heart of the question, then adds smart ass comment

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Flip the D300 and bolt in the 78-79 HP Ford D60 SOA, as seen in Leanz's build thread.
Also helpfull in a "go this way instead of your way" kind of way. sticks right to the point though.


The rest of the thread is pure useless dribble(including mine)
All we are missing is hag_gars insightfull words of solid inarguable wisdom.


Keep at it Pete. I can't wait to see another one of your rig builds in a mag
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Old November 1st, 2007, 05:04 PM   #22
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dewey if you were not such a big dude:tonka: i would give ya shit for being so cocky!!! 4 banger stick axle runner....
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Old November 1st, 2007, 05:08 PM   #23
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Yeah, but I don't run a dana 60, so never really looked into them that much.

I run my wittle itty bitty 7.8" ring gear with my 38s.. I chose a fabricated axle housing, and am happy I did. But I bought it specifically in mind for a sub-3000lb jeep... (build coming as soon as I get moved into the new house in 6 weeks...the toyota is shot..)


But if it was a choice of stock dana 60s, i'd go Chevy kingpin style or the HP60 ford, depending on the side drop you want.
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Old November 1st, 2007, 05:47 PM   #24
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Yeah, but I don't run a dana 60, so never really looked into them that much.

I run my wittle itty bitty 7.8" ring gear with my 38s.. I chose a fabricated axle housing, and am happy I did. But I bought it specifically in mind for a sub-3000lb jeep... (build coming as soon as I get moved into the new house in 6 weeks...the toyota is shot..)


But if it was a choice of stock dana 60s, i'd go Chevy kingpin style or the HP60 ford, depending on the side drop you want.
King pins are no stronger than a ball jointed (if they are different you are splitting hairs).
The advantage to the kingpin would be custom fabricated steering ,I think they are easier Just my 2 cents

Haggar what axle did you get? 7.8 must be a Diamond or similar Toyota carrier right ?
I want to do a custom fabricated housing someday soon .

Ok sorry for the off track .
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Somewhat helpful. keeps to the topic of the thread



More specific. gets right to the heart of the question, then adds smart ass comment



Also helpfull in a "go this way instead of your way" kind of way. sticks right to the point though.


The rest of the thread is pure useless dribble(including mine)
All we are missing is hag_gars insightfull words of solid inarguable wisdom.


Keep at it Pete. I can't wait to see another one of your rig builds in a mag

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Pete I am sure you have seen it, but the 60 bible has a good chart showing all of the 60's out there, probably would be good to look and narrow down what exactly you are looking for.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ont/index.html
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King pins are no stronger than a ball jointed (if they are different you are splitting hairs).
The advantage to the kingpin would be custom fabricated steering ,I think they are easier Just my 2 cents

Haggar what axle did you get? 7.8 must be a Diamond or similar Toyota carrier right ?
I want to do a custom fabricated housing someday soon .

Ok sorry for the off track .
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Diamond housing, 30 spline longs, longifeld hub gears, ARB hub studs, arb knuckle studs. Marlin hi steer. Going to make it full hydro.

7.8" = the toy 8".. haven't busted gears yet, if I do, I'll go to longfield cryo'd gears.


Jeep will be a 53 flattie, custom built frame, 3 link/4 link, 4 cyl...
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pete try and find a chevy 60 alot of the dodges have external hubs which suck and you cant upgrade them (35 spline) very easily.
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Old November 1st, 2007, 09:30 PM   #28
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Diamond housing, 30 spline longs, longifeld hub gears, ARB hub studs, arb knuckle studs. Marlin hi steer. Going to make it full hydro.

7.8" = the toy 8".. haven't busted gears yet, if I do, I'll go to longfield cryo'd gears.


Jeep will be a 53 flattie, custom built frame, 3 link/4 link, 4 cyl...
Very nice ,and worth every penny.

Im a Toy fan for life .
I wanted to go bigger on the tires and not have to worry about more upgrades .But now Im looking at some Rocks for the next build to many ideas not enough time.
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No one will come off one for less than $800. I would like to spend less than that.
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X2 and better ground clearance with the 44.
Shave the 60.
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pete try and find a chevy 60 alot of the dodges have external hubs which suck and you cant upgrade them (35 spline) very easily.
already said that fag.....i believe the 80 and later chevy because before that the inner shaft necks down. the 78 79 ford also has a neck down on the inner shaft. so that is the week spot for the inner and the 30 spline outers. so chevy 80 or later w added 35 spline outers = bad ass axle..hoser what ya got for your jeep? chevy or ford?
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Assuming equally strong 35-spline outers and u-joints on both axles being compared, I would choose the HPD60 with superior brakes that will bolt into my rig and replace a necked-down shaft if it even breaks than throw the dice on breaking something inside a LP front diff. Especially on the trail. Just seems like a better investment in my mind and allows for a wider range of transfer case options.
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i am runnin a 79 hp ford w 35 outers. will replace the inner when i break it. yea was a easier bolt in. i think pete wants to use a 300 trans case. thats why the pass drop. i would like a 300 too but was more work then i wanted to do right now.
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cut and flip flop re weld done
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will do when i break my t case.
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Thanks for all the insight. I guess the issue now is just finding the first one that will work for the right price.

Thanks all.
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I would stay away from a dually front axle .

Chevy seems to be a little easier to set up and get parts, but may not matter.

For what its worth I have a 79 Ford Hi Pin in my rig with a pass side drop

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You can also flip a dana 300 if you find a Ford 60
You can use a dually front axle, but you have to change the hub b/c of the dually spacer thingy. thats what a buddy of mine did on his ford 60, also when we picked his axle up, it was said that the dually 60's were running 70 inners
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also when we picked his axle up, it was said that the dually 60's were running 70 inners
i dont think the person who said that really knew what they were talking about.
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You can use a dually front axle, but you have to change the hub b/c of the dually spacer thingy. thats what a buddy of mine did on his ford 60,
That's because Ford dually spacers can be unbolted from the hubs. Chevy's do not.


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You can use a dually front axle, but you have to change the hub b/c of the dually spacer thingy. thats what a buddy of mine did on his ford 60, also when we picked his axle up, it was said that the dually 60's were running 70 inners
yes you can.

Then you have to hunt for SWHs,ect.. (more Money$$$) just seems easier to start with what you need, its going to cost you anyways why pay more for parts you don't need.
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yes you can.

Then you have to hunt for SWHs,ect.. (more Money$$$) just seems easier to start with what you need, its going to cost you anyways why pay more for parts you don't need.
he got a whole new hub assem., ill have to find out how much he got them for.
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