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Old October 29th, 2007, 08:36 PM   #21
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Belle Tire still will remount and repair older tires.
Sorry to keep this tangent going but I deal with getting tires fixed/replaced a lot with our work trucks/trailers and sometimes discount isnt close enough. After several visits to a couple different belle tires I no longer consider them no matter how far the nearest discount is. They seem to just hire a bunch of half-ass teens who dont care about what they are doing (I have had them destroy a wheel and tire on seperate occasions in different locations)

Bottom line Discount is always professional and very understanding, at least enough that they will always have our business. Cant beat their road hazard either, it has saved us literally hundreds ford and BFG rugged trails and their shitty ass 200$ tires.
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Old October 29th, 2007, 08:38 PM   #22
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ive got a friend who took a tire to them for a patch. They took it off the rim, said they couldnt do anything, and refused to put it back on
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Old October 29th, 2007, 08:45 PM   #23
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their are two different kinds of spacers. some are a 1/4 to 1/2 inch aluminum spacers that slide on befor the wheel...
thespacers have twisted in the past and wear the studs on one side and they can snap or have tiny fractures.... that means your tire can come off!!!!

then their is a spacer that you bolt on like a wheel and it has its own studs you then bolt to the wheel.... these have been known not to be torqued down to spects and coming loose as well as creating such an offset on he rim that it can weaken the studs.

we dont just make up these rules just to screw with people. these are to keep our customers safe.... if they were safe you think the worlds largest tire dealer wouldnt do it and turn away buisness??

i am a manager at a discount tire and if you all have questions i will gladly reply to them.
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Old October 29th, 2007, 08:50 PM   #24
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ive got a friend who took a tire to them for a patch. They took it off the rim, said they couldnt do anything, and refused to put it back on
once again if it is not safe to fix (run-flat, nail too close to belt edge) we will not put it back on because it is unsafe for our workers. and unsafe for you and your family.

would you put a family out on something that is unsafe?

i dont want you driving next to me on something that could cause an accident
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Old October 29th, 2007, 08:52 PM   #25
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i have given away hundreds of $$ in tires to keep people safe... if you dont get upset and take off.. we will always find a safe solution even if it mean us taking a hit.
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Old October 29th, 2007, 09:07 PM   #26
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their are two different kinds of spacers. some are a 1/4 to 1/2 inch aluminum spacers that slide on befor the wheel...
thespacers have twisted in the past and wear the studs on one side and they can snap or have tiny fractures.... that means your tire can come off!!!!

then their is a spacer that you bolt on like a wheel and it has its own studs you then bolt to the wheel.... these have been known not to be torqued down to spects and coming loose as well as creating such an offset on he rim that it can weaken the studs.

we dont just make up these rules just to screw with people. these are to keep our customers safe.... if they were safe you think the worlds largest tire dealer wouldnt do it and turn away buisness??

i am a manager at a discount tire and if you all have questions i will gladly reply to them.
nOT putting discount down for this. It was a slight inconvience that I was unaware of. Hense the FYI.

I am a past and future tire buyer at discount and love their service. I am pretty sure I have bought 5 sets of tires from Discount in the past 5 years. Got another set I need to pony for soon
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Old October 29th, 2007, 09:32 PM   #27
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i have given away hundreds of $$ in tires to keep people safe... if you dont get upset and take off.. we will always find a safe solution even if it mean us taking a hit.
DT takes care of its customers, always, I see it all the time.

So what store do you work at? Sales or the actual manager? I only ask because I am also with the company (though just a lowly tech)
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Old October 29th, 2007, 09:35 PM   #28
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once again if it is not safe to fix (run-flat, nail too close to belt edge) we will not put it back on because it is unsafe for our workers. and unsafe for you and your family.

would you put a family out on something that is unsafe?

i dont want you driving next to me on something that could cause an accident
hole dead center, trailer for hauling scrap around the property...
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Old October 29th, 2007, 09:47 PM   #29
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we dont just make up these rules just to screw with people. these are to keep our customers safe.... if they were safe you think the worlds largest tire dealer wouldnt do it and turn away buisness??

i am a manager at a discount tire and if you all have questions i will gladly reply to them.
Not to be argumentative, because I do appreciate the need for safety, but are the tires that usually blow up the ones somebody put fix-a-flat in? (15"rim size) I'm asking because that's the only reason I have heard of on a normal tire. (I don't deal with tires other than usually rotating them myself. I never break them down.)

What if I ground off the "created on" date?

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Old October 29th, 2007, 10:11 PM   #30
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Not to be argumentative, because I do appreciate the need for safety, but are the tires that usually blow up the ones somebody put fix-a-flat in? (15"rim size) I'm asking because that's the only reason I have heard of on a normal tire. (I don't deal with tires other than usually rotating them myself. I never break them down.)

What if I ground off the "created on" date?
Fix a flat tires don't have enough pressure to blow up, but there are plenty of reasons a tire could go. Any kind of damage, or even a manufacturer defect that could be hidden on the inside.

Oh, and if you ground off the date, "sidewall damage, can't work on it" is what I would say.
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Old October 29th, 2007, 10:15 PM   #31
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low profile tires always made me nervous when trying to seat them on the bead.

sometimes having to put 120psi into them to get them to seat. max psi is like 80 something.

just didn't seem safe to me
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Old October 29th, 2007, 10:29 PM   #32
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I work at Belle Tire, and sadly agree with mostly all you have said. I work @ 76th and 131 in south Grand Rapids, though our store is mostly geared towards Semis and distribution, we do have a small car bay and it seems there is always some punk kid in their making decisions he shouldn't and getting customers mad. Problem is hourly pay for car bay is not enough, if they would agree to allow more pay for them, more experienced techs would apply.

Although around here we do see alot of odd things, and will consider use. Guys will trailer mud truck up their and want something done, and usually if we know 'em we will mount old tires or something, but I have personally seen a 15 at blowup and that was enough for me. Note to self: Do not place head over tire.

As far as sales and prices, don't really know. I am a driver, and only buy specialty tires. But, I can say sales guys wont make more than 8 dollars on any given tire, most Navigator gold and such they dont make anything on.
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Old October 29th, 2007, 10:31 PM   #33
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Maybe that is why Discount rarely charges me for any tire work on my old ass bald mt's too much paper work and they might have to enter in a date code on the tire,
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Old October 29th, 2007, 10:34 PM   #34
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Maybe that is why Discount rarely charges me for any tire work on my old ass bald mt's too much paper work and they might have to enter in a date code on the tire,
scottie you just need new tires already
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Old October 29th, 2007, 10:36 PM   #35
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scottie you just need new tires already

no i need a running samurai
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Old October 29th, 2007, 11:58 PM   #36
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Man, it's nice to have a best buddy with 5 wreckers and a state of the art shop. I never have to deal with regs like that... no questions asked, but dumb looks always given.


To be fair, it's probably there to protect DT from being sued after some guy's dry-rotted tire detonates and he goes for the final swerve.
ya I just go to phils and take the tire of my self and help my self to the tire machine and balancer, and I would rather balance my own anyways as them dummys will just slap the weighton and it says to as .25-50 more on a aposing side they will just stick it on instead of messing with moveing the weight you have on the rim, and for my big tires I spin the rim first see were it needs weight if any mark it and put the tire on and spin it, if its off by more then 1 or 2 oz then I spin the tire on the rim to the weighted side of the rim so it balances it self out more I have droped a few oz on one tire before doign it that way
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Old October 30th, 2007, 12:04 AM   #37
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Split rim's are safe if done with the correct equipment. Most larger aircraft have split rims. When I was in USAF you mounted the tire and bolted the rim then it went in this massive cage that had a hydralic (sp?) ram that came down on it and held it from moving. The valve for the air was like 20 feet away behind a cement block wall where you stood while you held the valve to fill the tire with air. This is safety taken to the extreme. BTM.
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Old October 30th, 2007, 12:24 AM   #38
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once again if it is not safe to fix (run-flat, nail too close to belt edge) we will not put it back on because it is unsafe for our workers. and unsafe for you and your family.

would you put a family out on something that is unsafe?

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i have given away hundreds of $$ in tires to keep people safe... if you dont get upset and take off.. we will always find a safe solution even if it mean us taking a hit.
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hole dead center, trailer for hauling scrap around the property...
I would bet big money if that was me they did that to my tire would be put back on or they would have put some tire on free of charge or some killer deal on a used tire if it was on my ride.... they should ahve known were the leak was coming from befor ethey took it off the rime to play that game... if it was just a nail in the center that meen the tire was fine. on top of it being a scrap trailer.... you guys ahve rules but some times like this it is just a way to get more cash if they still would ahve said NO I would ahve just did it my self right there in their shop and said better call the cops.

Just like when I had the new stear tires put on the KW (big wide ones) they had to cheata blasters tring to air it up, couldn't get either tire to air up because some one stacked some thing on them and it formed a U in the bead area and was being a royal PITA, after lending thema hand and watching them bitch for a while I kept saying Either it so I can leave they said we can't do that well after and hour of watch these guys try the same thing over and over I took my tires out of their shop either them right up and took them back to them to put back on the truck took me 2 min, 1 min a tire, I told them for an hr that I do that to 4 of the tires on the gravel train each time its parked for more then a week
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Old October 30th, 2007, 06:46 AM   #39
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I am glad I have access to tire mounting equipment. Also, every time I go in Discount, it makes me remember how much I like Tire Rack. I am glad I have one close by.
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Old October 30th, 2007, 06:58 AM   #40
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If Discount Tire Is Trying To Be So Safe How Come The One In Lansing Sells Used Tires?
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