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Old September 23rd, 2007, 12:39 PM   #1
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I am looking at diesels, ford and dodge.

On the ford side what are the thoughts on the 2000-2002 7.3's vs. the 2004-2006 6.0's?

I've been warned to stay away from the '03 6.0's.

What kind of mileage are the 7.3's and 6.0's in the specified years getting? Also what major durability problems are there to look out for with both?

I tow approximately 4,000 lb every weekend during the summer, otherwise I won't see a lot of weight behind the truck.
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Old September 23rd, 2007, 01:44 PM   #2
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6.0's are hit or miss you might get a good one you might not. The 6.0 was a mid year change in 2003. I would look for a 2003 7.3 or a better idea is to scrap the Ford idea and look for a Dodge with a Cummins if you want a new truck.
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6.0's are hit or miss you might get a good one you might not. The 6.0 was a mid year change in 2003. I would look for a 2003 7.3 or a better idea is to scrap the Ford idea and look for a Dodge with a Cummins if you want a new truck.
I am considering the dodges also. But I do not want new. I want new(ER)

If I was to go dodge it would have to be 2003 - present.
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I had an 02 F250 powerstroke and i loved everything about it but the auto trans, my dad was getting 20-23 empty with his manual trans powerstroke. so i would say get a manual, because i was only getting 13-18 empty with mine. Or just do what i am going to do and get the cummins.
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05 and newer 6.0's also got free trans upgrades from the first torqueshifts. i would look at those if you can swing it.
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S_burby, were the trucks geared the same? I have seen gearing anywhere from 3.73 to 5+ from the factory in these trucks.

Stay away from the 6.0 it's not worth taking a chance on. The 7.3 is just as good as a Cummins in performance and durability so it is really up to which truck you like better.
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I have a really old 1995 :tonka: with the 7.3 w/5speed and get 22 unloaded and roughly 18 loaded. It's been great so far but I haven't had it that long so . . . I guess my imput would be that it's been around a while and still runs great!!
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Troll53, We did in fact have the same gears but he had the 6 speed w/granny low and i had the 4 speed auto, he had alot more control over what gear he wanted when he wanted it, mine just did what the pcm told it to do. I found that i was mostly running a higher RPM when really i could have been luggin the motor, i didnt always need the higher RPM.
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I have a '97 CC 4wd auto that I took to St Louis last summer. Ave was 20mpg loaded with my bronco and open trailer. I think the '03 and older 7.3s are better than the newer 6.0s, less problems it seems.
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01 cummins with the 6 speed
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i hear they break...

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I have an 01 E350 7.3 auto 240,000mi I still get close to 20mpg loaded or not, but my 02 F350 c/c 4x4 7.3 / 3.73 /auto is just now getting around 16mpg @ 140,000mi and that is up from about 14.5mpg both units have run excellent. I have owned both since new maintained them well including changing the trans fluid and have had no serious issues with either vehicle. I do carry an extra cam timing sensor in each because I have been left stranded by a failed cam sensor.
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got mine back together a week ago. I decided to test it right away towing my F150 to Alpena. I got 14.5 towing 5800 F150 on a 1700 lb trailer. Coming back, I got about 17.5 with the empty trailer. I was expecting a lot better. After I thought about it, I think that my calculations were wrong, since I have oversized tires. I think my trip odo was wrong, by about 10%, so my empty mpg was closer to just over 19, loaded was closer to 16.
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got mine back together a week ago. I decided to test it right away towing my F150 to Alpena. I got 14.5 towing 5800 F150 on a 1700 lb trailer. Coming back, I got about 17.5 with the empty trailer. I was expecting a lot better. After I thought about it, I think that my calculations were wrong, since I have oversized tires. I think my trip odo was wrong, by about 10%, so my empty mpg was closer to just over 19, loaded was closer to 16.
what year and what sized tires?

Those are pretty decent #'s especially towing that boat anchor 150.
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what year and what sized tires?

Those are pretty decent #'s especially towing that boat anchor 150.
My 96 2WD F250 5-spd gets 15.5 with a truck camper in the bed and pulling a 3000 lb enclosed trailer.

I have gotten 21 mpg totally empty. Secret to good fuel economy in the 7.3's is to keep the RPM below 2000 on the highway. With my 3.55 gears, that gets me about 67 mph.
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x2. get a boost gsge installed and drive as fast as you want as long as you're not in boost.

i have 285/75/16s. 5 speed, 3.55s, but i also have a few mods :tonka:

it's a 94, but the all the 7.3L powerstrokes are the same except for the impeller on the turbo and fuel delivery.
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x2. get a boost gsge installed and drive as fast as you want as long as you're not in boost.
I try my best to stay below 5 psi when traveling. Max boost on my piddly PSD is only 25 psi -

Bones, what are you seeing?
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I try my best to stay below 5 psi when traveling. Max boost on my piddly PSD is only 25 psi -

Bones, what are you seeing?
max under load is a touch over 20. I thought I would see more, but I haven't really done anything over 70% pedal at higher RPMs yet. I have been trying to stay below 10 in the city and 0 cruising.
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I am looking at diesels, ford and dodge.

On the ford side what are the thoughts on the 2000-2002 7.3's vs. the 2004-2006 6.0's?

I've been warned to stay away from the '03 6.0's.

What kind of mileage are the 7.3's and 6.0's in the specified years getting? Also what major durability problems are there to look out for with both?

I tow approximately 4,000 lb every weekend during the summer, otherwise I won't see a lot of weight behind the truck.
Hey man I wouldnt be afraid of a 6.0L. I would deffinatly get an 05+ though due to being able to get coil over front suspension, newer interior, some other minor changes. I have 90K on my truck and have had minor issues with it. I got 19.1 mpg hand calculated coming back from silver lake a few weeks ago and this was with the cruise set at 80. Im a big fan of the cummins just not a fan of the truck attached to it. If you get a 6.0L give me a call and I would be more then glad on what to steer you in the best direction.
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Hey man I wouldnt be afraid of a 6.0L. I would deffinatly get an 05+ though due to being able to get coil over front suspension, newer interior, some other minor changes. I have 90K on my truck and have had minor issues with it. I got 19.1 mpg hand calculated coming back from silver lake a few weeks ago and this was with the cruise set at 80. Im a big fan of the cummins just not a fan of the truck attached to it. If you get a 6.0L give me a call and I would be more then glad on what to steer you in the best direction.
Drove a cummins tonight, the truck was "ok" I will keep looking.

If anyone sees a ford with 6.0, 4 door, short bed, 4x4 with less then 75,000 on it for less then 24k let me know.

They are out there, but scattered all across the US
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