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Old March 1st, 2006, 10:35 AM   #1
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well the latest noise comming from my Jeep.....i know its a noise and i drive a Jeep and a noise isnt anything new......but the latest is a metal to matal squeak it sounds like to pieces of metal were rubbing up against each other. I thought at first it was the hood rubbing up against the safety latch, but thats not it, it sounds more like its comming from the axle or the wheel assembly.

The weird thing is, is that it starts after it is really cold outside, and after the Jeep warms up a little bit and i start to drive it, it slowly goes away. I dont know if it is a wheel bearing or something along those lines...just want to avoid something major, because it has been getting worse and worse.

ooo yea, it doesnt happens when the temperature isnt below freezing?!?!?!?!?!
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Old March 1st, 2006, 10:44 AM   #2
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u-joint? center ball on front DS CV joint?
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Old March 1st, 2006, 10:55 AM   #3
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metal to metal that changes with temp... probably not a good sign. Does it sound rotational at all?
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yes it shounds rotational....kinda i guess. Its pretty hard to explain. It happens when i start moving, when i move faster it sounds faster and when i slow down it slows down......
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Old March 1st, 2006, 01:35 PM   #5
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woulds it be a u joint, because its not a knock or anything like that, it sounds like more of a screaching noise, like you would take 2 pieces of sheet metal and rub the ends together.....i have no idea
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ill get under it today and see if there is any play in the drive shaft and whatever, ill just get under by the drive shaft and check things out
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Check the front CV joint in the driveshaft. They are notorious for drying up and going bad..
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woulds it be a u joint, because its not a knock or anything like that, it sounds like more of a screaching noise, like you would take 2 pieces of sheet metal and rub the ends together.....i have no idea

Yes, driveshaft u-joints are more likely to make a noise like that as opposed to axle joints.
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ok, i will get it checked out.....
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I think it's called "angry sparrows" noise. If that sounds right, it's probably the front CV joint.
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Old March 1st, 2006, 10:16 PM   #12
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Old March 1st, 2006, 10:26 PM   #13
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might also want to check the wheel bearings...
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I think it's called "angry sparrows" noise. If that sounds right, it's probably the front CV joint.
Yup.
Go to www.Jeepsunlimited.com and search for Angry sparrows.
It's a common problem with the front CV joint drying out.
I had two front driveshalfts replaced on my 99TJ under a "secret" warranty issue.
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if i get it replaced with my mechanic.....how much am i looking to spend here.....he is very honest and we have given him a lot of business, so he usually cuts the labor in half.......so how much is a part or rebuild or whatever need to be done with the front CV?
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Old March 5th, 2006, 11:45 AM   #16
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my advice:
keep and rebuild the stock front shaft as a spare.
Get an aftermarket front driveshaft.

with the short armed suspension, and low pinion front axle, the tj driveshaft is pretty vulnerable.
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Here's everything involved, including part numbers and prices, and a nice how to with pictures...

http://www.stu-offroad.com/axle/driv...iveshaft-5.htm

Basically, to service the double cardan joint, you are replacing two U-joints in the standard method, and replacing the centering yoke.
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thanx guys for all of your help!!!
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