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Old September 30th, 2007, 09:03 PM   #21
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I'd steer clear of any year 6.0L. I work with many contractors who have all years of them, and they are constantly in the shop.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 12:10 PM   #22
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I'd steer clear of any year 6.0L. I work with many contractors who have all years of them, and they are constantly in the shop.
I hear ya, but it seems it doesnt matter the truck something is wrong with one of em....

The ford 6.0's sucks, the dodge trannies and truck in general suck, the cummins is badass, the d-max has bad injectors, etc. etc.

I'm starting to go full circle and think I am better off keeping my gasser or if I do go diesel I should get a d-max....
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Old October 1st, 2007, 12:16 PM   #23
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I hear ya, but it seems it doesnt matter the truck something is wrong with one of em....

The ford 6.0's sucks, the dodge trannies and truck in general suck, the cummins is badass, the d-max has bad injectors, etc. etc.

I'm starting to go full circle and think I am better off keeping my gasser or if I do go diesel I should get a d-max....
please don't base your opinion on the fit and finish of the dodge on the one truck you drove, and all the transmissions of the big 3 diesels won't hold up when adding power to them. the 48re is just as good as the ford and chevy transmission.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 01:20 PM   #24
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please don't base your opinion on the fit and finish of the dodge on the one truck you drove, and all the transmissions of the big 3 diesels won't hold up when adding power to them. the 48re is just as good as the ford and chevy transmission.
Im sorry man but the 48RE will not hold a candle to the Torqshift or the Allison. Not trying to bash you but anyone on competitiondiesel Dieselgarage, Cumminsforum would tell you that. The Torqshift is a very strong trans. I have 89K on my truck and am running a XCAL2, LIPD stage 2 turbo, intake, turboback exhaust...and am putting down more then 430RWHP. Trans has never missed a beat.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 02:08 PM   #25
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didn't think the torqshift came in the year fords hes looking at.
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please don't base your opinion on the fit and finish of the dodge on the one truck you drove, and all the transmissions of the big 3 diesels won't hold up when adding power to them. the 48re is just as good as the ford and chevy transmission.
regardless of the fit and finish it still seemed "cheap" to me. my 170,000 mile truck had better fit and finish then this 50,000 mile 4 years newer dodge.

I will look at another, but my hopes are not real high.
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didn't think the torqshift came in the year fords hes looking at.
all 6.0L's came with the torqshift.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 06:39 PM   #28
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Damn, just missed out on a 4x4 4 door with 36,000 Miles on it for 18 grand. 2001 f350 owned by a 70 yr old man.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 07:23 PM   #29
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the torque shift eats itself from the inside out, usually clutches, the shrapnel then clogs up the solenoids on you need a totally new trans.

the dodges break the input shaft

the allison goes into limp mode before anything bad happens.

upgraded they all kick ass but that is a lot of coin to some people.

chad, if you want you can take my truck for a drive sometime if you dont get one before then.
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I will hopefully get something in the next month. I pretty much ruled out the dodges. I know how the chevy's drive, and have not been in a ford for quite some time. But it is now down to the chevy and ford.

Damn, and the 96 cummins I used to drive for work was such a solid truck compared to the 03...too bad no crew cab.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 07:53 PM   #31
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regardless of the fit and finish it still seemed "cheap" to me. my 170,000 mile truck had better fit and finish then this 50,000 mile 4 years newer dodge.

I will look at another, but my hopes are not real high.
I honestly think that for a while you would be dissapointed with anything other than a chevy. Thats what your used to. It takes a while to make the change.
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I honestly think that for a while you would be dissapointed with anything other than a chevy. Thats what your used to. It takes a while to make the change.
why go to something with lesser quality? and have to get used to it?

At least thats how I feel about the dodge thus far...
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Old October 1st, 2007, 08:10 PM   #33
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x2. get a boost gsge installed and drive as fast as you want as long as you're not in boost.

i have 285/75/16s. 5 speed, 3.55s, but i also have a few mods :tonka:

it's a 94, but the all the 7.3L powerstrokes are the same except for the impeller on the turbo and fuel delivery.
our 06 350 came stock with one, havent done the mpg numbers yet but, the fucker can move, held 90 like nothin goin up the zilwaukee bridge with my jeep trailered behind it. The truck blows me away every time I use it.

Can hardly feel the 10,000lb skid steer we pull around town behind it either, however I am used to normally pulling with our 06 150, so of course the 350 always feels nice to me
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Old October 1st, 2007, 08:46 PM   #34
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why go to something with lesser quality? and have to get used to it?

At least thats how I feel about the dodge thus far...
I wouldn't say its lesser quality. They're just different. The truck you drove have been driven hard, thats not a good representation of what a truck that has been well taken care of would be like.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 09:02 PM   #35
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You don't think I drive my truck hard?
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idk, probably sometimes. that truck you drove was abused and not taken care of.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 03:17 AM   #37
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they are all pieces of shit if they aren't taken care of. i wouldnt stray away from any of the big three, they all make a good truck, it's just how you maintain it that counts.

if you go the dmax route, get one with less than 100k on it, then take it to the dealer complaining of hard start and shitty fuel mileage(free injectors).

if you go the dooooodge route, flush the tranny immediately.

if you go the ferd route...keep an extra egr valve on hand.


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Old October 2nd, 2007, 06:50 AM   #38
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they are all pieces of shit if they aren't taken care of. i wouldnt stray away from any of the big three, they all make a good truck, it's just how you maintain it that counts.

if you go the dmax route, get one with less than 100k on it, then take it to the dealer complaining of hard start and shitty fuel mileage(free injectors).

if you go the dooooodge route, flush the tranny immediately.

if you go the ferd route...keep an extra egr valve on hand.


kthxbye
You make good points and you share good information. Each truck does have its weak points and it is a matter of getting the truck that was taken care of the best, with the least miles, for the lowest price, that is easiest to work on , blah blah blah.

There is a lot to consider and know, and threads like this certainly have helped me so far.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 06:51 AM   #39
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idk, probably sometimes. that truck you drove was abused and not taken care of.
wasn't trying to be a dick, but the point is my truck gets used, I don't rag the piss out of it, but I use it and it is still a nice solid ride.
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go with your gut instint thats what I always do. I like things about the dodge, ford, and chevy.

I have 90K on mine and it drives pretty good, original trans and shifts great. If you put a DMax into limp mode it will permanatly hurt the trans, and the next time it will go into limp mode even easier, and easier. I know if you want to make big power the Dmax with a merchant built trans is pretty BA...500-550 RWHP...impressive to say the least. You can get that with a dodge too, but it will take obvioulsy a built trans, modded CP3, and some stacked boxs. For a ford your gonna need a turbo, injectors, XCAL2 custom tuned and it would still be right at 500 RWHP. The only problem with the 6.0L that needs addressing asap if you buy one is the EGR system. But that can be solved very easy, remove, or block and shut the egr off with tuning.

simple free fix...take this

remove the scoop

and weld this port shut....wowla! you now have blocked off EGR COOLER!

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