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Old September 21st, 2007, 11:18 AM   #61
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I totally agree and that's why I have never owned a Japanese car and never will. I see how buying American, at the expanse of quality, impacts my economy in a positive way.
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Old September 21st, 2007, 11:18 AM   #62
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Moron....if quality dictated resale value the 2 best cars would be the Ford Taurus and th pontiac Grand Prix.

please re-read what was already posted
Are you going to send me a link or have the guy across the hall walk over and give your post his stamp of approval. Why don't you ask him why alligators are so ornery while you're at it.
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Think things all the way down, even of the cars were the biggest crap piles on the road, in the end it would pay for Michigan people to drive/ buy them. [/QUOTE]

so, even if my big 3 vehicle was a huge heap of shit, is should buy and drive it anyways because people who work/live in and around the big car areas in michigan will benefit by it?
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I am seriously considering leasing a 2008 taurus, how do they compare with the old ones?
Not sure. What made the old Taurus so good was they built the same one for so long. When a company does that....it makes it very easy to build a good product. Usually true for a model that is primarily a rental car
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Are you going to send me a link or have the guy across the hall walk over and give your post his stamp of approval. Why don't you ask him why alligators are so ornery while you're at it.
I already said that kbb uses customer demand as their primary indicator. They are constantly tracking the vehicles that are being purchased used.
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Not sure. What made the old Taurus so good was they built the same one for so long. When a company does that....it makes it very easy to build a good product. Usually true for a model that is primarily a rental car
my last rental car was a a g45

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Old September 21st, 2007, 11:22 AM   #67
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Why? Becuase I repeated the same point I have been making for the past 4 pages? Have another...
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Old September 21st, 2007, 11:24 AM   #68
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I rented a Prowler when I was in Vegas last time. It was lame. So aparently import rentals are sweet and domestic rentals are lame.
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Why? Becuase I repeated the same point I have been making for the past 4 pages? Have another...
you have yet to make a point.

You remind me of Billy Madison in the puppy that lost his way speech in the contest.
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Not sure. What made the old Taurus so good was they built the same one for so long. When a company does that....it makes it very easy to build a good product. Usually true for a model that is primarily a rental car
:chiefwoohaw: :chiefwoohaw: Way to back up a fruitless statement with nothing :chiefwoohaw: :chiefwoohaw:
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Old September 21st, 2007, 11:25 AM   #71
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you have yet to make a point.

You remind me of Billy Madison in the puppy that lost his way speech in the contest.
You're the one, who, like society, is lost!
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nothing?

The pph on that car was incredibly low. The hours to build that car was lower then compacts.
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exactly. so where should i spend my money then, on a luxury European model, a economical japanese car, or a japanese/chinese/mexican made american car?

Personally when I spend money on a vehicle I look at a few thing.

1st- What company is supporting the local economy. If Toyota had a MI based plant(as far as I know they dont, I could be wrong though) I might be willing to spend money with them if I knew people in my state get something out of it.

2nd- Does the company that have a good quality vehicle that meets my needs.

3rd - Price.


I'm guessing #'s 2 & 3 are universal. Number 1 is important to me that the automaker is helping out the local economy. I dont care who owns the company. But I do want to put some money in the pockets of my neighbors if I can.
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Old September 21st, 2007, 11:27 AM   #74
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Think things all the way down, even of the cars were the biggest crap piles on the road, in the end it would pay for Michigan people to drive/ buy them.
so, even if my big 3 vehicle was a huge heap of shit, is should buy and drive it anyways because people who work/live in and around the big car areas in michigan will benefit by it? [/QUOTE]


If an OEM tanked, all of the OEM jobs in this state gone, all of the support jobs in this state gone, all of the supplier to the OEM jobs in this state gone, raw material jobs in this state gone.....the list goes on forever. What's your outlook like now? Just raise taxes some more, we will replace those jobs with new ones, right?
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nothing?

The pph on that car was incredibly low. The hours to build that car was lower then compacts.
Though borderline retarded, you seem like a nice enough guy, so let me help you. Try mentioning the Enclave, Aura and Solstice a bit more in your argument.
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I rented a Prowler when I was in Vegas last time. It was lame. So aparently import rentals are sweet and domestic rentals are lame.
I will pay you 30 bucks for a picture of you in a prowler.
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exactly. so where should i spend my money then, on a luxury European model, a economical japanese car, or a japanese/chinese/mexican made american car? So when it comes down to it, who has the best product for the lowest price with the best warranty? cause thats what smart people look for in a car.
I look where the profits come back and domestic content, buy a jap car and the profits go over there, as well as they are low in domestic content compared the domestics.

For instance, My dad has stamped the body panels and floor pans etc. for the GM trucks, they make the panel and then it is assembled elsewhere (Avalanche), yes it sucks but a good chunk is made here. Flint Metal Fabs blank line has been breaking record after record after they got their new presses.
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Though borderline retarded, you seem like a nice enough guy, so let me help you. Try mentioning the Enclave, Aura and Solstice a bit more in your argument.
Why?

Why would I not mention the Silverado/Sierra that launched a new vehicle while lowering their pph/jd power numbers and their harbour numbers.

And they did the launch in record time over multiple plants.
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If an OEM tanked, all of the OEM jobs in this state gone, all of the support jobs in this state gone, all of the supplier to the OEM jobs in this state gone, raw material jobs in this state gone.....the list goes on forever. What's your outlook like now? Just raise taxes some more, we will replace those jobs with new ones, right?
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Word. I had one. It was sweet.

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