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Old December 18th, 2007, 04:11 PM   #41
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Because 6 holes won't fit on 8 studs, Mr. Kettering graduate.


I already had the H2's sitting around for the XJ.
I figured you were smrt enough to sell the H2s and get somethnig that actually fits well and looks descent.... but I've been wrong before...
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Old December 18th, 2007, 04:21 PM   #42
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I figured you were smrt enough to sell the H2s and get somethnig that actually fits well and looks descent.... but I've been wrong before...
I thought you would have come out of Kettering knowing how to spell, but I've been wrong before.
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Lumbering around in this thing on 33's with 3.08's blows.
I was just going by this post.
They also never came with a 14bolt SF, as you probably know.

Mark you ever come across any 14bolt SF with disc brakes? It would be a 99 up unit(trucks)....6 lug pattern. I thought about swapping in one of those for my 10bolt in the Suburban.
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I was just going by this post.
They also never came with a 14bolt SF, as you probably know.
Yes, I do. I mentioned this in my Parts For Sale ad. I figured that it had to be geared tall the way it was performing, but its just heavy, pushes a lot of wind, and the motor is tired.

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Mark you ever come across any 14bolt SF with disc brakes? It would be a 99 up unit(trucks)....6 lug pattern. I thought about swapping in one of those for my 10bolt in the Suburban.
No, but I have never looked. Aside from 14bFF's and the D60 that this truck is getting, I pretty much avoid anything Chevy.
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you don't watch the Simpsons, do you? I'll try to youtube it for you....
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you don't watch the Simpsons, do you? I'll try to youtube it for you....
No. TV rots your brain. :tonka:

I had the H2's on hand for the XJ build which is not getting its axles until next week, so I put them to use.
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No, but I have never looked. Aside from 14bFF's and the D60 that this truck is getting, I pretty much avoid anything Chevy.

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cant wait to see the out come
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Old December 19th, 2007, 09:33 AM   #49
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Don't worry -I'll be sure to keep you informed of my progress. I know you like to live your life through the accomplishments of others since the last Rig Build thread you made here was in July of 2006 and there are no threads at all by you in the Rig Builds Forum on Misfits.

That's funny... You posted that you finished your buggy in June of 2006, yet you were asking questions about mufflers, brake conversions, driveshafts, and corner armor a year later.

Sounds to me like somoene hasn't accomplished jack shit in a long time - pretty much since I got back from Iraq. I've managed to build up 2 vehicles and get rolling on this one in that time.

Hopefully you'll realize at some point that mocking me about getting things accomplished on my vehicles (whether I pay for it or not) just makes you look stupid.
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Don't worry -I'll be sure to keep you informed of my progress. I know you like to live your life through the accomplishments of others since the last Rig Build thread you made here was in July of 2006 and there are no threads at all by you in the Rig Builds Forum on Misfits.

That's funny... You posted that you finished your buggy in June of 2006, yet you were asking questions about mufflers, brake conversions, driveshafts, and corner armor a year later.

Sounds to me like somoene hasn't accomplished jack shit in a long time - pretty much since I got back from Iraq. I've managed to build up 2 vehicles and get rolling on this one in that time.

Hopefully you'll realize at some point that mocking me about getting things accomplished on my vehicles (whether I pay for it or not) just makes you look stupid.
someone must not have had much love from their father . . . . Job well done Mark. Pat yourself on the back some
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Ass clown has been following me around Misfits doing this shit ever sicne I bought the truck and posted my plans. Its ridiculous.
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Ass clown has been following me around Misfits doing this shit ever sicne I bought the truck and posted my plans. Its ridiculous.
Sorry to hear that

I'll be another one to say that those H2 rims kinda look like poop. I liked the black hard core styling.
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Old December 19th, 2007, 02:40 PM   #53
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Ass clown has been following me around Misfits doing this shit ever sicne I bought the truck and posted my plans. Its ridiculous.

i take it eather you got it from him, or he was next in line to get it

anyways i dig the build keep up the progress
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Front axle went in today and the truck is home. Ran into a bunch of different things, but worked around them.

Front driveshaft was a 1310 joint and the D60 happened to have a 1310 yoke.

Front brake lines are something that need to be improved. Found some that would fit and added some hard line extensions, but couldn't get them to fit the bracket that was riveted in the frame. Need to do some research and order extended lines for the appropriate application to fit the Ford calipers and Chevy hard lines.

The outers appear to have a camber issue. They are leaning outward a bit. I wasn't sure how to tell the alignment shop to spec the vehicle, but camber is at 0.8° and 0.5°. An 87 Suburban is supposed to be 1-2°. There are different ways to correct this and I just need to decide which way to do it.

Leaf spring bushings are shot to hell and caused deathwobble on the way home with the trailer, postponing my parts run tomorrow. Looks like the used lift was installed with old bushings and one looks like a Jeep bushing? Can't find anybody that stocks them so far.

Draglink angle can be improved upon. Its not at a sharp angle, but its not flat, either. A spacer for the kingpin or a dropped pitman arm is needed.

One of the Warn 35-spline lockouts is not being cooperative and wants to keep locking itself in. Apparently this has happened before and there is a thread about it on Pirate that I have to dig up.

Overall, the truck drives very well and the pinion angles even came out pretty good. The Mickey's were sold and were replaced with the used 315/75r17 BFG AT KO's that 03HemiSilver was selling, which made a world of a difference in the ride. Its much smoother and quieter now. The added sidewall height makes the H2's look a lot more in proportion now.

I'll post a picture tomorrow in the daylight after I wash all the dirt road spray off it.



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Need to do some research and order extended lines for the appropriate application to fit the Ford calipers and Chevy hard lines.
I've had really good luck with them. If you know what type fittings you need on the hose ends they'll make whatever length you need.
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all those questions I asked where for this rig that i finished months ago,

http://www.misfitoffroad.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=7614
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Front axle went in today and the truck is home. Ran into a bunch of different things, but worked around them.

Front driveshaft was a 1310 joint and the D60 happened to have a 1310 yoke.

Front brake lines are something that need to be improved. Found some that would fit and added some hard line extensions, but couldn't get them to fit the bracket that was riveted in the frame. Need to do some research and order extended lines for the appropriate application to fit the Ford calipers and Chevy hard lines.

The outers appear to have a camber issue. They are leaning outward a bit. I wasn't sure how to tell the alignment shop to spec the vehicle, but camber is at 0.8° and 0.5°. An 87 Suburban is supposed to be 1-2°. There are different ways to correct this and I just need to decide which way to do it.

Leaf spring bushings are shot to hell and caused deathwobble on the way home with the trailer, postponing my parts run tomorrow. Looks like the used lift was installed with old bushings and one looks like a Jeep bushing? Can't find anybody that stocks them so far.

Draglink angle can be improved upon. Its not at a sharp angle, but its not flat, either. A spacer for the kingpin or a dropped pitman arm is needed.

One of the Warn 35-spline lockouts is not being cooperative and wants to keep locking itself in. Apparently this has happened before and there is a thread about it on Pirate that I have to dig up.

Overall, the truck drives very well and the pinion angles even came out pretty good. The Mickey's were sold and were replaced with the used 315/75r17 BFG AT KO's that 03HemiSilver was selling, which made a world of a difference in the ride. Its much smoother and quieter now. The added sidewall height makes the H2's look a lot more in proportion now.

I'll post a picture tomorrow in the daylight after I wash all the dirt road spray off it.
depending on the lift springs you might need different spring bushings i believe rancho are the odballs, offroad design specializes in that body style with tons of great parts, they have the bushings you need in stock, take yours out measure them and call ORD

i think CHEVOATASS has a 60 kingpin spacer, i used it for a little while until my steering box got ripped off the frame, thats when i reinforced the frame and went x-over, if you are wheeling it at all or plan on bigger tires buy a steering box brace must have part for that thin ass frame ORD got 150$ at the most i think and its bolt on

barke lines you should just ahve made up, any race car shop can make em to spec, chevy one end and ford caliper other. only thing is they are not DOT approved alot of the time cause they are braided stainless, if you got that route put a rubber hose over the lines because i had one bust because i didnt have it protected and out of the way, rubbed a little hole in it and boom the line went pop, scary in 5000 truck going 50mph

im not sure there is anyway to adjust the camber on that axle, pretty sure they are fixed kingpin.
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Been a while since I updated this, as I have been busy all winter liqudating all the crap on my property.
  • The suspected camber problem was very real. The axle does not appear to be bent in any way, but the Ford outers were angled slightly down after being assembled to it and it was chalked up to manufacturing variation after a couple axle builders confirmed that they had seen it before. The problem was solved with a pair of Moog adjustable lower kingpin kits, which are outstanding (but not cheap). They are a cam-bolt type of design with a couple degrees of range and don't even require the knuckle to be torn down to install. If you do not drive your kingpin'd wheeler ont he street because of a problem like this, I highly recommend you look into these. With my tire size, 0° to -0.5° has been driving fine and wearing well.
  • Installing new leaf bushings made a significant difference int he stability of the truck. During the process of doing this at UORC, we figured out that the front swaybar geometry was not corrected when the truck was lifted. This was causing a very harsh ride, so a BDS sway bar drop kit was ordered. Been driving for months now with the front swaybar disconnected and while the ride improved, I'm not a big fan of the increased body roll at all (especially with the nearly non-functional shocks).
  • Motor is still going, but tired. Managed to haul Sol Goode's Jeep all the way back from JCR without much trouble. As long as I did not try to go fast (60-65 mph), it stayed in OD with the convertor locked and I got higher mileage than expected. 20w50 and a quart of Lucas seems to do a good job of keeping the knocks away. I only hear it for a second or two at startup after sitting overnight when its somewhere below freezing.
  • Still have lots of rear brake parts and hub seals to install.
  • Got a ticket for no tail lights. Apparetly the trailer harness that is spliced in back there sucks balls. They flicker when you jingle it, so it needs to be pulled out and replaced or re-spliced with something other than the crimped butt-connectors that are on it. I reconnected the wires that had seperated with new connectors, but the shit does not work correctly. Guess I may have grounding issues.
  • The steering is not bad, but I still need to get either a kingpin spacer or a dropped pitman arm and get a stabilizer back on there. It drives surprisingly well without one. Probably going to replace the drag link as well.


Thanks to Wee Willie coughing up some used ceramic coated BBC headers in Parts For Sale that fit my vehicle, I'm now motivated to get started on the 454 swap as soon as the weather improves a little more and a few more items leave the pole barn.
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