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Old September 11th, 2007, 03:11 PM   #21
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what's that spelled wrong?

ehh. . . I think it's right
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I wish he were dead. I wish he was tortured horrifically before death as well.

However, it would probably aid the the cause of terrorism even more. By making a martyr out of him, we'd probably see more terrorist attacks and more problems.

Cutting his ties to governments, finances, training camps, and making a fool out of him would really nip terrorism in the ass. Kill his organization, kill his name, and then kill him.

Should he stand trial? No, because I think the evidence is overwhelming. A marine sniper can do the job more efficiently than a "world court".
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Old September 11th, 2007, 03:23 PM   #23
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I wish he were dead. I wish he was tortured horrifically before death as well.

However, it would probably aid the the cause of terrorism even more. By making a martyr out of him, we'd probably see more terrorist attacks and more problems.

Cutting his ties to governments, finances, training camps, and making a fool out of him would really nip terrorism in the ass. Kill his organization, kill his name, and then kill him.

Should he stand trial? No, because I think the evidence is overwhelming. A marine sniper can do the job more efficiently than a "world court".
thats exactly what they say in 1984.
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Old September 11th, 2007, 03:40 PM   #24
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is that what Jesus would do?
He will do worse. As in saying "I never knew this man" condeming him to an eternity in hell.

Jesus is not a "nice" God. He is a fair and just God, which is a scary and horrible thing for people that live evil lifestyles (aka Osama)
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Old September 11th, 2007, 03:51 PM   #25
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what are you talking about? I posted up comments made by Fred Thompson, not some guy on the internet.
I don't really care about it, but I just wanted to ask if you heard Fred Thompson say all those things in original context or if you saw it quoted on a website. Liberal media blah blah blah...
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Old September 11th, 2007, 04:05 PM   #26
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no, i wasn't hanging out with Fred. I read it in an article.
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Old September 11th, 2007, 06:29 PM   #27
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alright, i just posted that as a lead in to these statements made by a lot of you guys' man crush, Fred Thompson.
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Old September 11th, 2007, 10:22 PM   #28
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I skipped over a bunch of that crap because it seemed many are forgetting a few things.

He is one of the enemy. If he is sitting on a ridge and shooting at our guys....yes blow him the hell up. No trial. No stupid shit like that. WTF? Do we capture every enemy combatant and put them on trial? No, if they are fighting us, we let our guys take care of them.

If he walks into an embassy and gives himself up or he starts flying a white flag and we pick him and his buddies up...ok sure, now we have some "possible" rules, although I am still on the fence about that because he is not a nation and subject to the Geneva Convention.

Do you think he will ever simply let himself be captured without a fire fight? Should we endanger our troops in order to capture him alive? Should we tell our troops to not kill him or shoot back? That's just nuts.

You can debate the should he die or should he not die all you want, but he will not be taken alive.
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Old September 11th, 2007, 10:24 PM   #29
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I skipped over a bunch of that crap because it seemed many are forgetting a few things.

He is one of the enemy. If he is sitting on a ridge and shooting at our guys....yes blow him the hell up. No trial. No stupid shit like that. WTF? Do we capture every enemy combatant and put them on trial? No, if they are fighting us, we let our guys take care of them.

If he walks into an embassy and gives himself up or he starts flying a white flag and we pick him and his buddies up...ok sure, now we have some "possible" rules, although I am still on the fence about that because he is not a nation and subject to the Geneva Convention.

Do you think he will ever simply let himself be captured without a fire fight? Should we endanger our troops in order to capture him alive? Should we tell our troops to not kill him or shoot back? That's just nuts.

You can debate the should he die or should he not die all you want, but he will not be taken alive.
You sound like Fred Thompson . . . now just change that around a few times you would really sound like Freddy boy. :tonka:
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You sound like Fred Thompson . . . now just change that around a few times you would really sound like Freddy boy. :tonka:
How ya figure?

I say kill his ass with a missile. I don't think Fred said that. I know there isn't a Dem out there that has the balls to say that.

The rest don't matter because he will never be captured alive.
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Thompson meant "the same rules ought to apply to him as to everyone at Guantanamo Bay, and there ought to be due process thru a special military court or commission."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070910/...GhUedDwAqs0NUE
However, not being aligned or associated with a signitoree of the Geneva Conventions, he, or anyone else at Guantanamo Bay, should not be afforded the courtesy and priviledge of recognized "due process" under military or civil law.
That being said, don't expect him to make it to that point, if his capture were to occur.
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Screw giving him a trial, we already know it was him. Find Him, catch him, bring him back here. Cut his dick and balls off and shove them down his throat and torture him on live T.V. :) Then we can throw him threw a jet engine of the same type of plane he highjacked and if hes still alive after that, Sitick a M16 up his ass and let a round go.lol. We should of done that with the other idiot to(Saddam Huesan. At least he got hung.

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Old September 12th, 2007, 12:03 AM   #33
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OMG a politition made some comments over the course of several days when strung together make him sound inconsistant... say it isn't so...

I agree with every one of those statements.

I agree that Bin Laden is probably more a sysmolic figure head of Al Qaida than the mastermind behind all it does.

I agree that he "ought to be captured and killed"

And I agree that he "should" be given due process"
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Old September 12th, 2007, 02:05 AM   #34
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fawk this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IUd8kMaa-8



but on a serious note.. if you were the marine face to face with Bin Laden alone in a cave... would you handcuff the guy and walk him out, or shoot his fawkin kneecabs and drag him out by his hair...
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Old September 12th, 2007, 06:26 AM   #35
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but on a serious note.. if you were the marine face to face with Bin Laden alone in a cave... would you handcuff the guy and walk him out, or shoot his fawkin kneecabs and drag him out by his hair...
If I had gloves, I'd shoot his knees out, handcuff him and drag him out by his pubes.

Then I'd have some kind of farm animal sodomize him in the "Mr Hands" sort of way and let him die of internal bleeding. But that's just if I had my druthers.
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Old September 12th, 2007, 06:53 AM   #36
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He's a war ciminal and they get tirals. . . search nuremberg.
Bullshit. Hitler was the leader of a country that was defeated. Had he been captured, he would fall under Nuremberg. Bin Laden is a terrorist that represents no country. If he is captured, he should not be given the rights granted under Nuremberg. He should never be taken alive. Kill him and leave him. Don't even publicize it. Just let him rot in the mountains so he never becomes a martyr.

Sova, I really hope you are never able to convince school kids to believe your political rhetoric and insufferable bullshit. If I were a parent of a child in your classroom, I would either beat you in an alley, or make it my life's work to have your teacher's certificate shredded, then hand you an application for Taco Bell.
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why would he be granted due process under our laws, when he has never willingly submitted himself to the jurisdiction of our laws by entering our sovereign boundaries?

as far as I'm concerned, he's an enemy combatant and subject to whatever he gets under military law/geneva convention rules.
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Sova, I really hope you are never able to convince school kids to believe your political rhetoric and insufferable bullshit. If I were a parent of a child in your classroom, I would either beat you in an alley, or make it my life's work to have your teacher's certificate shredded, then hand you an application for Taco Bell.
hey dipshit, i just said that in the beginning to be "clever". I posted the comments by Fred Thompson.

I honestly don't care what they do with Osama when and if they catch him.

I just wanted to highlight Fred's views and his "flip flopping" on the issue based on what people want to hear.

every politician does it, but it seems like "flip flopping" is always thrown at Dems.
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Screw giving him a trial, we already know it was him. Find Him, catch him, bring him back here. Cut his dick and balls off and shove them down his throat and torture him on live T.V. :) Then we can throw him threw a jet engine of the same type of plane he highjacked and if hes still alive after that, Sitick a M16 up his ass and let a round go.lol. We should of done that with the other idiot to(Saddam Huesan. At least he got hung.
Steveo are you looking to mentor someone, I think this guy is begging to be just like you. :tonka:
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hey dipshit, i just said that in the beginning to be "clever". I posted the comments by Fred Thompson.

I honestly don't care what they do with Osama when and if they catch him.

I just wanted to highlight Fred's views and his "flip flopping" on the issue based on what people want to hear.

every politician does it, but it seems like "flip flopping" is always thrown at Dems.
Stop attacking the with your flip-floping statements!! People read way to much into flip flopers
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