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Old January 26th, 2006, 07:25 PM   #1
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My 5 speed is whining in 1, 2, 3 and 5th gears. Any idea what may be causing this and how long I will be able to drive before total driveline meltdown?
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Old January 26th, 2006, 07:39 PM   #2
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My 5 speed is whining in 1, 2, 3 and 5th gears. Any idea what may be causing this and how long I will be able to drive before total driveline meltdown?
well do a couple of tests. if the whiny noise goes away in forth gear at speed then its a mainshaft bearing problem. if its still the same in every gear then I would say its a counter shaft problem. check your fluid level and fill it up to the top of the fill hole. it could be enough to stop the noise for a bit
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Old January 26th, 2006, 08:55 PM   #3
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Very quite in 4th. Drained and refilled when the noise started. Do you think an additive might help the noise or should I just bite the bullet?
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Old January 26th, 2006, 09:31 PM   #4
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Hmmm, 4th is the only gear that is 1:1, therefore doesn't use the countershaft. I wonder if those needle type bearings between the 2 mainshaft halves are going bad.
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My 5 speed is whining in 1, 2, 3 and 5th gears. Any idea what may be causing this and how long I will be able to drive before total driveline meltdown?
sure crazyjeep just hasnt been riding shotgun? that might explain the whiny noises..

















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Old January 27th, 2006, 06:22 AM   #6
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sure crazyjeep just hasnt been riding shotgun? that might explain the whiny noises..
wha wha wha.....Also, I see that your Jeep project is coming along quite well....



Anyone one here ever tried one of those eBay rebuilt transmissions? I'm just wondering how the quailty compares to one rebuilt locally.
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Old January 27th, 2006, 06:35 AM   #7
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given that its quiet in 4th tells me you have a bearing issue. you could pull the trans and re-shim the input spline bearings and tighten the clearence over the whole main shaft. that wat you don't have to tear apart the whole trans, its a bit tricky because you don't want to remove the front shaft, just the holder . then add about .015 shim and see how much end play you have over the length of the shaft(add or remove as needed). if you can get it down to .002 you will be good.

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Any special tools I may need to attempt this?
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Old January 27th, 2006, 03:02 PM   #9
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not really, but if you have the front bearing support pulled and it falls apart in your hands then you have to able to fish out the parts and beable to put it back together. . if its a top loader trans then its very easy to repair, if its one piece body with a seperator plate and a tail shaft housing they are quite a bit harder to split to get at the insides. do you have a book or diagram that shows the break down of that trans? if yyou do it would certainly help
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I have my Chilton's....that won't help much with this though.
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Old January 27th, 2006, 04:38 PM   #11
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What year sploder, and if you can what tranny?
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I have a book for a `90 model year if thats close enough, but I have no idea what year yours is
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This is a 97 Explorer with a 1993 Explorer tranny in it. It's the Mazda M5OD-R1 4x4 transmission.
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Anyone one here ever tried one of those eBay rebuilt transmissions? I'm just wondering how the quailty compares to one rebuilt locally.
LOLZ!!! .. OMGZOR! .. its so getting worked on soon! someones been busy whoring himself out for $$
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Bought a NEW tranny. Updates after I take the old one out and play with it.
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New tranny went in today. No more whine. What should I do with the core? Do junkyards buy this stuff? I can send it back to the place I got this new one but I'll only get $75 after shipping and all.
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see if you can ship it third class , then it maybe much cheaper and you get more money back.
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hmmmmm.....4x4 tranny? Bolted to a 4.0 tranny? If so, I *may* be interested in it - I'm looking to do a manual swap in my ranger (I've got the POS A4LD right now). But I'm going to guess that a whole new tranny was cheaper than internals, even if you rebuilt it yourself right?
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Yeah.....I would imagine so. This will bolt right up to a OHV 4.0 V6....and it is the 4x4 version. Let me know. It was driving when it came out....but it will need some work to make it "nice" again.
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