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Old September 20th, 2007, 10:44 PM   #141
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this is sat? how much would it be to just do the poker run? im not sure if the woman friend would like camping then..... let me know. I would like to go and the last weekend in sept will work for me..
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Old September 20th, 2007, 10:46 PM   #142
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Old September 20th, 2007, 10:52 PM   #143
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Stop fishing and come out with it.

You know more about what has to happen than the rest of us Ranger Russell.
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Old September 21st, 2007, 07:12 AM   #144
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My group = 8-10 people, about 4 jeeps.



I will be there, along with Avnxtek (from here) and atleast 2 other jeeps from the silver lake area (don't know if Arron knows Ray S. or not??). So, that will be 4 of us, unless more join. I will probably call today to see if there is still a camping spot available.

pss Start a list of people going on Post 1???

What time do you want us there? (I am thinking 10:30am Sat. at the latest? Unless camping, then earlier to park/set up camp)
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Old September 21st, 2007, 07:28 AM   #145
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Sounds like this event is getting large. Do we need any permits from the state or fed to hold this rally?
Hello Sir.
Everybody here welcomes the Forest Service, and there is no need to mask yourself as someone who is looking to do a trail ride, and testing everyone on the legalities of the situation. If you have time, it would be great if you could take 20 minutes to do a post on the requirements for large groups of people on the public trails here in Michigan.

There is a gray zone with a lot of folks on what is legal, and what is not. Educating us would be extremely beneficial to both the wheelers (over 3000 unique people read this site daily), as well as the officers who patrol. If we know the rules, we can be legal, and it will save you time on the trails trying to track down the illegal groups.

Even though most people find it ridiculous that we have to pull a permit to do a trail ride, its the law. I'm sure you have noticed that some people think the number is 20 vehicles, some people think its 20 people, while other people think its 60 people. Instead of us argueing amongst ourselves, it would be great if you could clear up the situation.

"calling out" people from a psuedo name does not help you, or the wheelers of Michigan. The truth is, its very frustrating trying to BE LEGAL in this state, and I believe you could be a very big asset to all of us. I do not want to do anything illegal, but its hard to know what the laws are around here.

I'm deleting your account here labeled "ludington53", as this violated the rules of multiple accounts per person. Please feel free to post under "District Ranger", and I'm sure your words can educate us all.

Thanks for your time.
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Old September 21st, 2007, 10:35 AM   #146
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the event is free.. 10 dollars is for camping. i have already called the ranger station 3 times. he is going to be back in a hour. i will keep everyone informed on what is going on after i speak with him. i also have talked to the owner of river city and we are working together to make this 100% legal. if there is a big fee for a permit then i will cancel this ride.
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Old September 21st, 2007, 04:05 PM   #147
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Old September 21st, 2007, 04:07 PM   #148
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Old September 21st, 2007, 07:10 PM   #149
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one rig one person. At least that is the plan.
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Old September 22nd, 2007, 01:54 AM   #150
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FYI CO's WE PAY your SALARY!!!

Lighten up!
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Old September 22nd, 2007, 02:27 AM   #151
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Lighten up!
Yea, that always works when you say that to a cop when you get pulled over.
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Old September 22nd, 2007, 07:15 AM   #152
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Old September 22nd, 2007, 10:29 AM   #153
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this is still up in the air. i will have a answer the first of the week.
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Old September 22nd, 2007, 10:42 AM   #154
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At least 1, probably 2 rigs ( I am pushing my luck and bringing the jeep and the truck)
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It was a joke ya retards
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It was a joke ya retards
I'm sure he took it that way.

Somehow I bet he doesn't understand your sense of humor.
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Old September 22nd, 2007, 11:35 AM   #157
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liv2mx,

I am sure most of us would be willing to contribute $(much more than 2 cents) towards the permit, just my 2 cents.
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Old September 22nd, 2007, 11:56 AM   #158
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I am sure most of us would me willing to contribute towards the permit, just my 2 cents.
2 cents a person? That won't pay for the permit.

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Old September 22nd, 2007, 12:11 PM   #159
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dmc has already offerd to pay for the permit. i have the money that is not the issue. as far as i am concerned the run is ruined. we must worry about not spinning our tires. they will have everywhere we go documented and if any damage to a puddle some tickets are handed out. yea thanks for all your help ranger..your doing your best to keep us out of the woods we pay for!!!
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Old September 22nd, 2007, 12:28 PM   #160
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*Not Happy*

But i would never Let this stop me for doing something i love. Stand up for your Rights Pay the Fee, then if there is a problem take it to court. if you follow the law Right there shouldn't be a issue.

im sure you have supports that wheel with you that day, don't let the man keep you down.

Almost everyone post i read from you i see cancel or something about doing it..

Be the bigger Man here and do whats right stand up for you rights and don't be Bullied.

i would suggest you find someone from http://www.ufwda.org/ or http://www.glfwda.org/ to wheel with you that day.
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