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Old September 24th, 2007, 07:56 PM   #181
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We need to hook up with Trail Junkie, and go somewhere. I have time to go, I don't want to sit in my cabin all weekend.
Let me know if you guys are going out cruising. I knid of want to try out the CJ 8 and see what a piece of shit it is. Mikey wants top tag along also.
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Old September 24th, 2007, 09:50 PM   #182
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Congrats ranger rick, you have continued the downward sprial of the state of michigan. I hope part of the state budget is made up with the removal of your salery.
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Old September 25th, 2007, 01:32 PM   #183
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Let me know if you guys are going out cruising. I knid of want to try out the CJ 8 and see what a piece of shit it is. Mikey wants top tag along also.
Sound like a plan to me!
We did Silver last sunday for the first time in 10 years, it was still fun too!
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Old September 26th, 2007, 09:30 AM   #184
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So exactly what caused the cancellation? All I get from the posts is a permit might or might not have been required and might or might not have been available.

If the situation is we're just not allowed to enjoy our public forests, then we might just as well start supporting the Libertarian Party Candidates. The Libertarians advocate selling off most government owned land. It wouldn't help our cause any, but if the public is not allowed to use public lands, what's the point?
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Old September 26th, 2007, 10:11 AM   #185
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I'm not the one who cancelled the run but IMHO, after all this :chiefwoohaw:; this is what caused the cancellation:

1. This started out as a 'friendly run of buddies' that escalated to an 'Event' status VERY quickly.

2. The requirements (ie: Permits, Insurance, Route submittal) for an 'Event' were not clear to the organizer, and thus were not planned for.

3. A USFS Ranger tried (in my opinion, others have a different view) to drop some 'hints' in order to get the trail run legal before they went out. Which resulted in a lot of hearsay, finger pointing and debate.

4. Ultimately, I think it became too much to deal with for the organizer who simply wanted to get out on the trail with some friends.

I hope that perhaps next year, or later this year, this 'Event' is planned for and conducted. I've never been on a "Poker Run" and honestly don't know what the hell it means or how it's conducted. But it sounds like fun. And any day on the trail is better than a day at work.
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Old September 26th, 2007, 12:22 PM   #186
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DAMNIT!!!!!!

what the hell am i gonna do know, hang out with the wife uuugh.

now i'm probably gonna end up at some queer ass craft show or something....er'
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Old September 26th, 2007, 08:38 PM   #187
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I'm not the one who cancelled the run but IMHO, after all this :chiefwoohaw:; this is what caused the cancellation:

1. This started out as a 'friendly run of buddies' that escalated to an 'Event' status VERY quickly.

2. The requirements (ie: Permits, Insurance, Route submittal) for an 'Event' were not clear to the organizer, and thus were not planned for.

3. A USFS Ranger tried (in my opinion, others have a different view) to drop some 'hints' in order to get the trail run legal before they went out. Which resulted in a lot of hearsay, finger pointing and debate.

4. Ultimately, I think it became too much to deal with for the organizer who simply wanted to get out on the trail with some friends.

I hope that perhaps next year, or later this year, this 'Event' is planned for and conducted. I've never been on a "Poker Run" and honestly don't know what the hell it means or how it's conducted. But it sounds like fun. And any day on the trail is better than a day at work.


i have talked with pat and maybe next year we will do a full blown (event!!!)
this run has taken place for 3 years now so it is nothing new...that is all i will say. you people can say all you want but you do not know the details..it was cancelled for good reason believe me.


amdemon-- sorry man, was looking forward to going wheelin with you again..
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Old September 27th, 2007, 08:10 AM   #188
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nah its all good definitly see ya next year.
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Old September 27th, 2007, 04:21 PM   #189
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Yeah, I take my money and travel to off road parks where we are wanted. It is better than being toyed with by State And Government PRICKS. We will never, with our best ass kissing and most productive trail cleanups be able to use the land our once Great State has to offer because of these PRICKS. One pink slip from them would cost what a weekend in the Badlands cost, so ya might as well travel. PRICKS
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Old September 27th, 2007, 04:26 PM   #190
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Yeah, I take my money and travel to off road parks where we are wanted. It is better than being toyed with by State And Government PRICKS. We will never, with our best ass kissing and most productive trail cleanups be able to use the land our once Great State has to offer because of these PRICKS. One pink slip from them would cost what a weekend in the Badlands cost, so ya might as well travel. PRICKS
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Yeah, I take my money and travel to off road parks where we are wanted. It is better than being toyed with by State And Government PRICKS. We will never, with our best ass kissing and most productive trail cleanups be able to use the land our once Great State has to offer because of these PRICKS. One pink slip from them would cost what a weekend in the Badlands cost, so ya might as well travel. PRICKS
I feel you may be right. And the reason is that we can't get enough people to give a crap enough to put up a fight. The states going under anyway, we'll have new rules under canadian ownership.

By the way...If you're planning on travelling to go off roading...see THIS and THIS
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I feel you may be right. And the reason is that we can't get enough people to give a crap enough to put up a fight. The states going under anyway, we'll have new rules under canadian ownership.

By the way...If you're planning on travelling to go off roading...see THIS and THIS
Yeah, that makes me want to PUKE. It also makes me wonder what will be left for our children. Thanks for pointing me to those links.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 03:49 PM   #193
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Yeah, that makes me want to PUKE. It also makes me wonder what will be left for our children. Thanks for pointing me to those links.
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