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Old March 7th, 2012, 10:33 AM   #681
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and that is where people get into trouble making their own kits. you need to make sure all the components are matched otherwise you are just throwing $ away.
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Old March 7th, 2012, 10:51 AM   #682
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and that is where people get into trouble making their own kits. you need to make sure all the components are matched otherwise you are just throwing $ away.
I disagree with that.

Yes if you just go all willy-nilly by the seat of your pants you will probably fukc something up.

I'm sure we have all saw plenty of threads where guys, "went and got dis here tractor cylinder from TSC" and "done ripped the motor off mah ferk truck" and ended up having poor results.

But the requirements for all of the components can be calculated. Assuming you are buying something reputable that has accurate specs there is no reason why you have to buy a pre-designed "package".

The other thing, which is where I think Erin is going, is if other people are using cylinder X with oribital Y and having good results I don't see how that would be a bad idea.

I'm just curios as to why the single ended ram than the double ended. I've always heard that the single ended rams are not balanced when it comes to "in" and "out" travel. To me it seems like the way these guys throw these southern buggies around they would want one of the best most reactive steering setups you can get.
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Old March 7th, 2012, 11:21 AM   #683
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I disagree with that.

Yes if you just go all willy-nilly by the seat of your pants you will probably fukc something up.

I'm sure we have all saw plenty of threads where guys, "went and got dis here tractor cylinder from TSC" and "done ripped the motor off mah ferk truck" and ended up having poor results.

But the requirements for all of the components can be calculated. Assuming you are buying something reputable that has accurate specs there is no reason why you have to buy a pre-designed "package".

The other thing, which is where I think Erin is going, is if other people are using cylinder X with oribital Y and having good results I don't see how that would be a bad idea.

I'm just curios as to why the single ended ram than the double ended. I've always heard that the single ended rams are not balanced when it comes to "in" and "out" travel. To me it seems like the way these guys throw these southern buggies around they would want one of the best most reactive steering setups you can get.
no, sounds like you agree with me actually. maybe i should have said "some people"

se keeps the cylinder up and out of the way while they are doing 90 uphill towards a rock???
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Old March 7th, 2012, 11:48 AM   #684
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i have a feeling joe is going to be the first one in it.since he is going to get it running and do the plumbing and wiring..he will be out driving it around his yard without me.
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no, sounds like you agree with me actually. maybe i should have said "some people"

se keeps the cylinder up and out of the way while they are doing 90 uphill towards a rock???
My bad, I took that to mean that to do it right you HAD to buy an off the shelf kit :)
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Old March 7th, 2012, 01:12 PM   #686
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I'm just curios as to why the single ended ram than the double ended. I've always heard that the single ended rams are not balanced when it comes to "in" and "out" travel. To me it seems like the way these guys throw these southern buggies around they would want one of the best most reactive steering setups you can get.
I know a bunch of mud guys who run full hydro off a single ended ram and its not that noticable speed wise left to right. And if his is going to be 2 turns lock to lock then that is very fast and he wouldn't be able to notice it. I think a "normal" steering set-up is about 3.5-4 turns lock to lock. Thats how my full hydro is, but I wanted it to be like stock lock to lock wise.
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I know a bunch of mud guys who run full hydro off a single ended ram and its not that noticable speed wise left to right.
I ran a single ended ram for years and never noticed the difference left to right. It isn't that big of a deal.
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me neither. i never noticed a speed difference with a single ended ram.
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I know a bunch of mud guys who run full hydro off a single ended ram and its not that noticable speed wise left to right. And if his is going to be 2 turns lock to lock then that is very fast and he wouldn't be able to notice it. I think a "normal" steering set-up is about 3.5-4 turns lock to lock. Thats how my full hydro is, but I wanted it to be like stock lock to lock wise.
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me neither. i never noticed a speed difference with a single ended ram.
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I ran a single ended ram for years and never noticed the difference left to right. It isn't that big of a deal.
But you are a BDMT kinda guy.

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Old March 7th, 2012, 06:30 PM   #691
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My .02 is that, if you get a chance look at a tractor supply ram . the rod end fitting is orificed down to equal speed from side to side . I also belive that it depends on what you are trying to accomplish, these are probably not going to slide the rig sideways aginst a tree but do work for speed . They sure work on the rigs down south
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Old March 7th, 2012, 06:44 PM   #692
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i have ran them both ways and i would run either way again. i say do what you want and if you dont like it you can change it. buggy is looking great. next time i am up that way i will stop and check it out. good job and have fun.
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Old March 7th, 2012, 07:19 PM   #693
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this is why i called the guys that have run this and is a matched system. if i went all out i can run a 700.00 krc pump. but brian told me the chevy pump is just fine. he has run that for years.
yes i want a se ram because less moving parts to fail,easy to install and no big dirt digger in the front.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 04:26 PM   #694
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whats with the poser flex pic? That buggy is built to jump over rocks. Flex is over rated.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 04:40 PM   #695
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for a real tease suspend it from the ceiling with all 4 tires a 3 feet off the ground
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Thanks for fixing it. I could hardly wait to see it.
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I won't bad mouth this because I want a ride.
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I got a box with a blue question mark... No pics :-(
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