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Old September 12th, 2007, 07:07 PM   #1
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okay so i am borrowing an uncle's trailer.......

and the ball was 2 5/16" (i think, i know it was bigger then 2") so i had to borrow his receiver. But my truck rides alot lower then his and my springs are pretty sad.

this is the style receiver i am borrowing from him

now in order for me to use this receiver i will have to flip upside (opposite of the pic) and move the ball mount up the adjuster (so it is moved further away from the receiver tube) i'm not real familar with these adj. receivers so i am asking if this is safe before i do it?

i normally use this style receiver

but have it flipped so it rises not drops.........

so is it okay to have the adj receiver up that high, or should i buy my own 2 5/16 ball and use my receiver ........i really can't afford to spend any $$$ cause everything i got is going towards gas for the gig..........whats my options

i am towing a normal tandom car hauler trailer with my B2 (approx 5000lbs) on it

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Old September 12th, 2007, 08:45 PM   #2
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those receivers are designed to work both ways... you should be fine... obviously use common sense though
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Old September 12th, 2007, 08:46 PM   #3
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okay so i am borrowing an uncle's trailer.......

and the ball was 2 5/16" (i think, i know it was bigger then 2") so i had to borrow his receiver. But my truck rides alot lower then his and my springs are pretty sad.

this is the style receiver i am borrowing from him

now in order for me to use this receiver i will have to flip upside (opposite of the pic) and move the ball mount up the adjuster (so it is moved further away from the receiver tube) i'm not real familar with these adj. receivers so i am asking if this is safe before i do it?

i normally use this style receiver

but have it flipped so it rises not drops.........

so is it okay to have the adj receiver up that high, or should i buy my own 2 5/16 ball and use my receiver ........i really can't afford to spend any $$$ cause everything i got is going towards gas for the gig..........whats my options

i am towing a normal tandom car hauler trailer with my B2 (approx 5000lbs) on it
I have one set up the way need ,if you want to barrow it ?
I work in Middleville

pm me if you want

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Old September 12th, 2007, 08:49 PM   #4
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I have one set up the way need ,if you want to barrow it ?
I work in Middleville

pm me if you want

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if its not a real big concern on moving the ball mount up the bar then i'll just move it, i was just concerned if i moved it up i would stress it in a way that it shouldn't......

what is your set-up? and where do you work?
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There are a couple things to consider when setting up ball height. Tongue weight and even weight on the trailer axles. Tongue weight should be approximately 10% of your trailer weight. So figure 500 - 700 pounds. The higher the ball in the air, the more you are trying to lift the front axle off the ground, thus increasing tongue weight. The lower the ball, the less the tongue weight. Think of this: If you load the trailer & then unhook the hitch & raise the tongue jack, it will probably lift off the ground. If that was the height of the ball, you would have no tongue weight & the trailer will sway dangerously.

Second, when the ball height is correct, your axle springs & shackles will look pretty much the same front and rear. This is a good thing.

Don't know what your tow rig is but a good rule of thumb is that the trailer should compress the rear suspension a couple inches. This shows adequate tongue weight but doesn't bottom it out.


Don't be too careless about this.......... accidents happen.
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if its not a real big concern on moving the ball mount up the bar then i'll just move it, i was just concerned if i moved it up i would stress it in a way that it shouldn't......

what is your set-up? and where do you work?
Just a receiver (have a couple different drop sizes) flipped or not with a 2 5/16 ball.

A big company right in town.
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Old September 12th, 2007, 09:01 PM   #7
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i'd have to assume the biggest company in Middleville, (i used to clean the office area years ago, and my parents still clean it)

my rig is a 2wd 3/4 ton Suburban with a 14 FF

but the susp is pretty tired, even with the empty trailor it lowers the susp atleast 2 inches from normal height

and being safe is why i'm asking the quetions before i do it.......

thanks for the replies
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Old September 12th, 2007, 09:06 PM   #8
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i'd have to assume the biggest company in Middleville, (i used to clean the office area years ago, and my parents still clean it)

my rig is a 2wd 3/4 ton Suburban with a 14 FF

but the susp is pretty tired, even with the empty trailor it lowers the susp atleast 2 inches from normal height

and being safe is why i'm asking the quetions before i do it.......

thanks for the replies


one rig ?

Whiterihno hit right on the spot
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one rig ?

not sure what you mean
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Old September 12th, 2007, 09:17 PM   #10
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one rig ?

not sure what you mean
On the trailer .If you said it earlier I'm sorry I missed it. (weight)
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yeah one rig, Bronco 2 weighing approx 4500-5000lb
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There are a couple things to consider when setting up ball height. Tongue weight and even weight on the trailer axles. Tongue weight should be approximately 10% of your trailer weight. So figure 500 - 700 pounds. The higher the ball in the air, the more you are trying to lift the front axle off the ground, thus increasing tongue weight. The lower the ball, the less the tongue weight. Think of this: If you load the trailer & then unhook the hitch & raise the tongue jack, it will probably lift off the ground. If that was the height of the ball, you would have no tongue weight & the trailer will sway dangerously.
Don't be too careless about this.......... accidents happen.
have to agree with you on this.

too many people don't even think about tongue weight or GVW.

when I bought my trailer and set it up to tow my rig, I took a regular bathroom scale and a 3 ft piece of rebar and set it up to read the tongue weight. when I got the Jeep at the right tongue weight marked the trailer with the Jeep wheel centers. now I know every time, it's pretty close to right on.
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i bought a new ball for my receiver, and got it loaded

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i bought a new ball for my receiver, and got it loaded

Just curious why did you load it backwards ?
It doesn't look bad (shrug)

I know every set up is a little different.But it seems like every vehicle I have put on any trailer the rear wheels are right behind the rear trailer tires(just like you have it but,with the front facing front).
Oh well if it tows and doesn't sway all over run it .
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i took it for a 5 mile drive at 55-65mph and felt fine behind the truck

its loaded backwards cause the frt axle is 2.5" wider then the rear and the front axle wouldn't fit between the fenders (its not my trailer or i would've just ran it over)

i'm sure having it baclwards is gonna hurt my MPG but what can ya do, i didn't have any smaller tires to put on it for the front
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i took it for a 5 mile drive at 55-65mph and felt fine behind the truck

its loaded backwards cause the frt axle is 2.5" wider then the rear and the front axle wouldn't fit between the fenders (its not my trailer or i would've just ran it over)

i'm sure having it baclwards is gonna hurt my MPG but what can ya do, i didn't have any smaller tires to put on it for the front
Hay if it works run it .
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