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Old June 29th, 2007, 02:01 PM   #61
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Also, somewhere in that book it talks about spreading the good news without restriction to all who may need it.
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Old June 29th, 2007, 02:02 PM   #62
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Careful, it sounds like you are judging and according to that book you keep quoting that's not your job.
Throwing in my two pennies Jay, I think it is stupid. If everyone else makes a deposit on this subject, I am gonna throw in too.
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Old June 29th, 2007, 02:04 PM   #63
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Jesus was one to break some social norms and push the envelope, but he never went to such extremes. It would be unwise to watch a stripper and tell them about God. It would be more appropriate when they were done with their business.

I have never been to a strip club because I know it is wrong, I know it is degrading to women, and I know it is lame. When I chose to sin before knowing God, it made more sense to actually have a woman than look at a woman. Titty bars are nothing more than instant gratification for weak men who are unable to produce actual excitement in the context of a relationship. Beyond that, said weak men are never actually satisfied because the nature of the exchange is both incomplete and untrue.
Why is it wrong? How is it degrading to women if the girl dancing likes her job, gets paid well, and is good at it! Isn't that her choice?

That's pretty bold of you to place such judgement! The last I knew it was a sin to place judgement on someone else!
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1. Why is it a sin to attend a Gentleman's Ballet? How am I sinning when watching a girl dance erotically?

2. The problem with religion is there are too many hipocrates that do it!

3. I don't know of a single human that doesn't lust over anything!

4. But if you have to ask about a morality issue, then you are are not mature enough for the situation!
1. See verses I posted.

2. Agreed.

3. Me neither. Lord knows I am guilty from time to time. But what matters is how you handle a struggle. You either fight or you give in.

4. Agreed.
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Old June 29th, 2007, 02:09 PM   #65
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Why is it wrong? How is it degrading to women if the girl dancing likes her job, gets paid well, and is good at it! Isn't that her choice?

That's pretty bold of you to place such judgement! The last I knew it was a sin to place judgement on someone else!
I have already said why it is wrong. She can choose to sin the same way you can. But this topic is about whether or not a christian should go to a strip club.

My instruction is nothing more than quoting and explaining God's word. My only personal opinions is how unsatisfying and lame strip clubs are. If you feel judged friend, I'm not the author of sexuality or the commands for it.
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Why is it a sin to attend a Gentleman's Ballet?

How am I sinning when watching a girl dance erotically? The girl is just showing off her brass pole acrobatic skills, with less than a normal amount of clothing.....
Its not prostitution just entertainment; like boxing, the opera, and Tom Cruise.

The problem with religion is there are too many hipocrates that do it!

I don't know of a single human that doesn't lust over anything!
Who here doesn't desire more money or more happiness?
There is enough wrath and predjudice on this thread alone!
Who here isn't envious of that bigger, badder stronger, 4x4?
How about pride? Shit, I don't think I have really met anyone on this board that was truely humble!
And the Sloth of everyone sitting on their asses on this damn website being gluttoniuos with their time is rediculous....


I say do what you want to do, like what you do, and do it when you want to do it! There are too many "Rightious Hipocrates" around here to ask for advice when it comes to religious decisions. But if you have to ask about a morality issue, then you are are not mature enough for the situation!
you kick ass stog
ive really been missing your input latety
hopefuly soon we can take the scooters to some nice place and pay baerly leagal girls to tuch there nakedness in an inpure manner in front of us while drinking over priced beer and saying ever been for a ride on a harley? alot
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Old June 29th, 2007, 02:24 PM   #67
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you kick ass stog
ive really been missing your input latety
hopefuly soon we can take the scooters to some nice place and pay baerly leagal girls to tuch there nakedness in an inpure manner in front of us while drinking over priced beer and saying ever been for a ride on a harley? alot
You missed one hellofa ride last week! FREE BEER, Naked girls, The smell of High Octane, burnt rubber, and stripper purfume filled the air!

There is a run in Columbus, OH coming up called the SMUT RUN! Interested in going...... One of my brothers started it a few years back.....and its off the hook of a good time! Wanna go?
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You missed one hellofa ride last week! FREE BEER, Naked girls, The smell of High Octane, burnt rubber, and stripper purfume filled the air!

There is a run in Columbus, OH coming up called the SMUT RUN! Interested in going...... One of my brothers started it a few years back.....and its off the hook of a good time! Wanna go?
id love to but i dont think my wallet will let me
and we would have to push-start the shovel every time i shut down:tonka:
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Old June 29th, 2007, 02:36 PM   #69
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Why is it a sin to attend a Gentleman's Ballet?

How am I sinning when watching a girl dance erotically? The girl is just showing off her brass pole acrobatic skills, with less than a normal amount of clothing.....
Its not prostitution just entertainment; like boxing, the opera, and Tom Cruise.

The problem with religion is there are too many hipocrates that do it!

I don't know of a single human that doesn't lust over anything!
Who here doesn't desire more money or more happiness?
There is enough wrath and predjudice on this thread alone!
Who here isn't envious of that bigger, badder stronger, 4x4?
How about pride? Shit, I don't think I have really met anyone on this board that was truely humble!
And the Sloth of everyone sitting on their asses on this damn website being gluttoniuos with their time is rediculous....


I say do what you want to do, like what you do, and do it when you want to do it! There are too many "Rightious Hipocrates" around here to ask for advice when it comes to religious decisions. But if you have to ask about a morality issue, then you are are not mature enough for the situation!
AHMEN---this is why I do not believe nor have any faith in the church/ any that is, I believe in a higher power sure, but if we were to be judged; then the earth as we know it would have been dust long ago. Go to the club, have fun, ask for forgiveness later.
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Go to the club, have fun, ask for forgiveness later.
Loose translation: betray your soul and your maker, abuse God's Grace and Mercy, and then cash in the get out of jail free card. What a deal!

Nothing could be more bass akwards from the truth or the way.
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Old June 29th, 2007, 03:02 PM   #71
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1. it's my soul that makes me who I am, there for let freedom ring.
2. it's "god's" grace the give's us freedom of choice
3. there is no get out of jail free card; cause if you ever served in the armed forces you would know that we are already doing our time in hell.
4. live life to the fullest, show everyone in heaven you appreciate their gift and show them beauty of life.
5. if that is disagreeable then.......get off the cross,build a bridge and get over it.
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1. it's my soul that makes me who I am, there for let freedom ring.
2. it's "god's" grace the give's us freedom of choice
3. there is no get out of jail free card; cause if you ever served in the armed forces you would know that we are already doing our time in hell.
4. live life to the fullest, show everyone in heaven you appreciate their gift and show them beauty of life.
5. if that is disagreeable then.......get off the cross,build a bridge and get over it.
1. How does soul = freedom?
2. Ok.
3. The get out of jail free is the "premeditated forgiveness" circumvention
4. So appreciating others gifts is looking at their bewbies? Does beauty of life = dirty dollar bills?
5. say what?
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Old June 29th, 2007, 03:52 PM   #73
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Old June 29th, 2007, 03:54 PM   #74
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My husband is pretty avidly anti-strip clubs. He thinks they are ungodly even unsanitary. Last year his best friend got married and they rented a limo, and went on the town for a bachelors party. They made a stop at the strip club and his friend had a lap dance. I knew that he was going and I didnt mind because I know my husband is faithful, and I know it meant a lot to his friend. I dont think it is moral whether you are single or married to go to strip clubs, but I dont think the one act alone will condem you to hell.
Oddly enough the thread that caused my husband to lose respect for people on here and stop posting was about a strip club.
Mike and I try to live a moral life. We are not perfect, but we definitely do not go out of our way to find sin. We are faithful and want to have a family. We do not want to spend our time in bars, strip clubs, or other places that could lead us to a less savory life.
As to the original post, I would say that if the person who is being asked to DD is a Christian and is worrying about his soul he should ask that someone who isnt morally opposed be the DD.
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Old June 29th, 2007, 04:14 PM   #75
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I look at it this way: you've gotta do a little sinnin' to have something to repent for. And strippers are a pretty low-key sin (i.e. nobody gets hurt).
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Old June 29th, 2007, 04:27 PM   #76
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Although I haven't been to a stip club in a long time, I have spent more time in them than most. Friends that own/manage them.

I remember thinking of god everytime I walked into one.
One of the first things I would say when entering and getting the first glimps of a beautiful girl on stage is "Thank you Lord".
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1. How does soul = freedom?
2. Ok.
3. The get out of jail free is the "premeditated forgiveness" circumvention
4. So appreciating others gifts is looking at their bewbies? Does beauty of life = dirty dollar bills?5. say what?
you don't have to give $, and if $$$ is a bad thing, then why work?
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nobody gets hurt
Is that really true?

Have you ever looked at the lifestyle of a stripper?

Do you think strip clubs and the like support good family lives for the men who go?
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commandment 11 thow shall not watch tom cruise.
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Is that really true?

Have you ever looked at the lifestyle of a stripper
What, are you kidding!
Every 'deep' conversation I ever had with the strippers I knew, they would always tell me that they were paying for school or they were investing their money for the kids college fund.

Of course this all took place at a table in the back room while they were making those neet little lines of some white powdery stuff.:tonka:


Ok, I have to go stain my deck, I'll check back later for more stripper talk.
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