Kerwin, this article is for you. - Page 3 - Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest

Go Back   Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > General 4x4 Stuff > Politics, Government, or Religion Chat
GL4x4 Live! GL4x4 Casino

Politics, Government, or Religion Chat Bring your flamesuit!

greatlakes4x4.com is the premier Great Lakes 4x4 Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old July 6th, 2007, 10:30 AM   #41
Dave Kerwin
web wheeling, hard.
 
Dave Kerwin's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-18-05
Location: SE MI
Posts: 6,686
iTrader: (9)
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ditchdigger View Post
I can tell you emphaticly that had my family had the choice, knowing in advance his troubles....abortion would have been a simple choice to make.
But it is IMPOSSIBLE to know how much trouble a special needs child would face. I told you about my friend Eric with the exact same disease as your son. He has very limited motor skills, but he is not restrained to a wheel chair, and can actually walk (akwardly though), and does not need assistance to get around. He has slowed and slurred speach, but his mind is 100%. The guy even goes out with his friends to bars and drinks beer (through a straw, but he puts em down). Point being this: if your daughter killed her grandson, she would have acted in ignorance and made a mistake. Just because hindsight has become 20/20, does not mean it is acceptable to act in ignorance.
Dave Kerwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old July 6th, 2007, 10:40 AM   #42
Dave Kerwin
web wheeling, hard.
 
Dave Kerwin's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-18-05
Location: SE MI
Posts: 6,686
iTrader: (9)
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ditchdigger View Post
1....what I said about abortion is simple...it's the womans choice. And your counter point is mute as it has absoulty nothing to so with what I said. Where did you get the idea, I have a say in how a murder person is trreated. WTF ? are you drunk...............lmao. I said , how could I make a decision about abortion if I am not a woman.

2....where did I exactly say I wanted to kill my grandson ? Or where did I say I hate him ? And where do you get the idea I am weak ? Because I spoke truth about the history of Humanity. Up until the 1940's in many parts of this country, messed up babies were quitely killed at birth. What does that have to do with me ?..........this is not the olden days.

Now I admit my style in my posting dealing with my grandson was a bit raw. So let me say this.....I am very pissed off at what happend to my Kid and her kid..we all are. It was a mistake not something that just happend ok. SO when my daughter calls me like 4 times a week in the middle of the night becasue her son needed CPR AGAIN cause he choked on his vomit or spit. He almost died again................See past you and self induced projections...dude put youself into her shoes.
1. Your logic was that because you have never been pregnant, that you are unable to have an opinion about abortion. I used your logic against you friend. If you have never been murdered, then in a similar fashion, you should not have an opinion on what happens when someone IS murdered. Or should you? Your own logic does not work. Just because you or I have never been pregnant does NOT eliminate us from making a judgement call or having an opinon. Do you see my point?

2. You went on and on arguming how useless his life was and how if this were the olden times you would have killed him with a shovel. Did you mean to say something different than that? I can't see how, because that is exactly what you said. So for me to think that you don't like your grandson and prefer him dead is NO stretch of the imagination, you said it.


This was not about if I felt bad for your daughter and grandson. For the record I do, and that is a very difficult lot in life, but it IS her lot. We all have our own. I wish it could be different for them, but it is not. Just because she has trouble does NOT mean that abortion across the board is acceptible. You have to see it from outside of yourself to properly make a decision on this type of issue.
Dave Kerwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 6th, 2007, 06:59 PM   #43
Ditchdigger
Natural Born Wierdo
 
Ditchdigger's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-14-07
Location: Shanty Creek Michigan
Posts: 102
iTrader: (0)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Well first of all you are making a point about abortion based of the assumtion everythinks of it as Murder...........they dont...SO I understand what your saying but deeeply disagree with it.....I think until a baby is born and its still attached to the mother, any decision to the life of the baby is hers alone to make...I can't make fair decisions about underwater basket weaving cause I knwo nothing about it.................And fair decisions are souly based on an unbiased thought process....by declaring it murder you just removed yourself from a fair decision making proccess.

My grandsons life is usless.....without constant care he will die............The use he has is 100% emotional..here me out now.... The love my family has for him and all the that is happening.... is it..that's it..nothing more. He will never do anything but sit there and drool........and be in a constant state of possiable death... YES he has a personality but lets put that aside......Alone he is completely useless


So I say that letting a child like this live is a selfish thing to do " I dont want my baby to die " why ? Cause you will feel liek shit. Its all about you

Its a very honest and real way of looking at it ...we dont want our baby to die cause I will go through a bunch of pain for the rest of my life...so to advoid it all I will just keep the baby alive with tubes and machines etc....My pain is more important then the quality of the childs life and the life of thoose around him......(Funerals make me sick....everybody is crying about them........it's never about the dead guy)

well............like I said in the olden days comon sense was law...and babies got smashed with shovels.....Some American indians burned em alive...

But I am a extreme realist.........I love my grandson ....his name is Christian
Ditchdigger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 6th, 2007, 07:01 PM   #44
Ditchdigger
Natural Born Wierdo
 
Ditchdigger's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-14-07
Location: Shanty Creek Michigan
Posts: 102
iTrader: (0)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

LMAO...............weird glitch in above post.....I cant edit that remark about 7.00 Jeep wash... wtf .............LOL
Ditchdigger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 6th, 2007, 07:07 PM   #45
deuce228
Redneck Poser
 
deuce228's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-07-05
Location: West Branch, MI
Posts: 7,971
iTrader: (8)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

It is because you use horrible and misused punctuation.
deuce228 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 6th, 2007, 07:33 PM   #46
Ditchdigger
Natural Born Wierdo
 
Ditchdigger's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-14-07
Location: Shanty Creek Michigan
Posts: 102
iTrader: (0)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by deuce228 View Post
It is because you use horrible and misused punctuation.
Yeah and its gonna saty taht wway................I type fast and on 3-5 boards at a time.............I dont have time to go back an dfix every little detail. So dont read my bad gramer..........It is no indication of my education..only my lazyness and inablity to have perfect punctuation over 30 threads

And it is a glitch when I put the post into Edit mode that remark about jeep stuff isnt even there...........
Ditchdigger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 6th, 2007, 07:36 PM   #47
Hal9000
I Ride a Bike
 
Hal9000's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-07-05
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Posts: 2,336
iTrader: (1)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to Hal9000
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ditchdigger View Post
Yeah and its gonna saty taht wway................I type fast and on 3-5 boards at a time.............I dont have time to go back an dfix every little detail. So dont read my bad gramer..........It is no indication of my education..only my lazyness and inablity to have perfect punctuation over 30 threads

And it is a glitch when I put the post into Edit mode that remark about jeep stuff isnt even there...........

also remember to forget about his flawed and cyclical logic, because he is very busy typing important things on many different boards, mer mortals cannot comprehend
Hal9000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 6th, 2007, 07:52 PM   #48
Ditchdigger
Natural Born Wierdo
 
Ditchdigger's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-14-07
Location: Shanty Creek Michigan
Posts: 102
iTrader: (0)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

lol................all logic is flawed............................each person is his own island
Ditchdigger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 6th, 2007, 07:54 PM   #49
Hal9000
I Ride a Bike
 
Hal9000's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-07-05
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Posts: 2,336
iTrader: (1)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to Hal9000
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ditchdigger View Post
lol................all logic is flawed............................each person is his own island

and your's is sinking into the sea of bull shit
Hal9000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 6th, 2007, 08:26 PM   #50
Dave Kerwin
web wheeling, hard.
 
Dave Kerwin's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-18-05
Location: SE MI
Posts: 6,686
iTrader: (9)
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hal9000 View Post
and your's is sinking into the sea of bull shit
young grasshopper hal speaks wisdom beyond his years.
Dave Kerwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 7th, 2007, 09:47 AM   #51
GreaseMonkey
Senior Member
 
GreaseMonkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-04-05
Location: Madison Heights, MI
Posts: 17,976
iTrader: (22)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveKerwin View Post
young grasshopper hal speaks wisdom beyond his years.
Not trying to start anything, but are you unable to accept someone else's opinion?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by kerryann View Post
I am not a lesbian but if I was I would do her.
GreaseMonkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > General 4x4 Stuff > Politics, Government, or Religion Chat

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:25 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright 2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Page generated in 0.38652 seconds with 53 queries