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Old June 20th, 2007, 09:19 PM   #1
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Default partial birth abortion ban

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial...ortion_Ban_Act
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266724,00.html
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/apr/07041902.html

Were you one of the 32% of people who initially were opposed to this ban?
Were you one of the people, like HILARY, who want it gone?
How is that even remotely justifiable?

How is abortion a constitutional right?
Why are dems being dishonest about "health" of the mother when heath includes mental health? (aka, I am too stressed to live with this child in me, therefore you can murder it)

I hate abortion
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Old June 20th, 2007, 09:24 PM   #2
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I'm just pissed that so many people are dishonest, and so inconsistant in their "care" for people. Does anyone else see what is going on here? Dems want to be the rescuer of pregnant women, but what good are they actually doing? Bailing someone out at the cost of a nearly born child's life. They are lying to themselves thinking they are rescuing ANYTHING! IDIOTS!!
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Old June 20th, 2007, 09:25 PM   #3
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Good for you. How do you think you have the right to decide what someone else does with THEIR body?


For the record,I do not agree with partial birth abortions.

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Old June 20th, 2007, 09:27 PM   #4
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You know what I really hate? When religious lunatics feel they need to save everyone from themselves and know what is right for them.

Why cant you just take care of yourself and let me take care of myself?
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Old June 20th, 2007, 09:28 PM   #6
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Don't get knocked up and there won't be a need for an abortion. Simple as that.

If you make a mistake and it happens, adoption is not a hard way to go, and is a lot more reasonable than murder.
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Good for you. How do you think you have the right to decide what someone else does with THEIR body?


For the record,I do not agree with partial birth abortions.
How do you think that anyone has the right to do anything to an undefended CHILD's body? (aka, what give the mother a right to kill a child, who happens to have its own DNA, blood type, etc)

For the record, I do not agree with partial borth abortions either.
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BTW Dave the lunatic comment wasnt directed at you. Just in general.
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Old June 20th, 2007, 09:33 PM   #9
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Good for you. How do you think you have the right to decide what someone else does with THEIR body?
That leads up to the age old question... At what point does the mother no longer have the right to do whatever she pleases with the baby? At what point does the baby have the right to THEIR body?

Kerwin will probably say at conception, some will say at birth, most will pick some point in between.
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You know what I really hate? When religious lunatics feel they need to save everyone from themselves and know what is right for them.

Why cant you just take care of yourself and let me take care of myself?
I really hate it when police officers and fireman try to save everyone from themselves. This world would be a better place if those ignorant people just minded their own business. Hollar if ya hear me. How could a police officer or fireman POSSIBLY know what is right for ME!?!?

I'll tell ya what, you take care of your selfish butt, watch innocent and defenceless kids get killed, and good luck sleeping at night. Jerk.
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That leads up to the age old question... At what point does the mother no longer have the right to do whatever she pleases with the baby? At what point does the baby have the right to THEIR body?

Kerwin will probably say at conception, some will say at birth, most will pick some point in between.
Yeah, but no matter what anyone says, PARTIAL BIRTH abortion is to a kid who is about to be born.

They have to pull it out by its feet, and get it right to the point that its head is not all the way out (if it was all the way out, it would be "born" which makes it an actual human somehow), then they crack the base of the skull and vacuum its brains out so it dies, then they remove the dead baby. It is LITERALLY like a horrow movie, but it is desired to be legal by gutless people.
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BTW Dave the lunatic comment wasnt directed at you. Just in general.
Whatever, you can eat my shorts
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I am in no means saying that I am an expert. This is just my opinion and limited knowledge I have on the subject.



If the fetus cannot live outside the mother it is not a child. Until it can live on its own the mother has the right and makes the decisions for it. It isn't not your choice what goes on in another persons body. I cannot tell you what to do with yours. Just because a woman has a potential child in her doesn't give you the right to tell her what to do with hers.
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Old June 20th, 2007, 09:41 PM   #14
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Better than having the kid grow up to be some drug dealing criminal welfare recipient.

Oh, and to me you're not a human being until you're eligible to be in the phone book.


That last one was just a joke.
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Old June 20th, 2007, 09:41 PM   #15
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That leads up to the age old question... At what point does the mother no longer have the right to do whatever she pleases with the baby? At what point does the baby have the right to THEIR body?

Kerwin will probably say at conception, some will say at birth, most will pick some point in between.
When it can live on its own or with the assistance of machines. That is why I don't agree with PBA. A fetus cannot be sustained on a machine(to the best of my knowledge) in the first few months.
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Old June 20th, 2007, 09:42 PM   #16
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Dave, why does God allow people to kill their babies? Doesn't he care?
(A serious question, but not ment to start an argument)

By the way, I think that abortions should be legal as long as they follow the same rule that I had to follow when I got my first pellet gun. You kill it, you eat it.
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I really hate it when police officers and fireman try to save everyone from themselves. This world would be a better place if those ignorant people just minded their own business. Hollar if ya hear me. How could a police officer or fireman POSSIBLY know what is right for ME!?!?

I'll tell ya what, you take care of your selfish butt, watch innocent and defenceless kids get killed, and good luck sleeping at night. Jerk.

That's right. Just because someone wears a badge that must mean they are infallible and know what is best for everyone.

Sounds like the arguement of most religious nut bags. If you dont agree with them you must be wrong. Always onesided opions. Cant ever be any other opinion but theirs.

Oh yeah, kiss my ass Dave.
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I am in no means saying that I am an expert. This is just my opinion and limited knowledge I have on the subject.



If the fetus cannot live outside the mother it is not a child. Until it can live on its own the mother has the right and makes the decisions for it. It isn't not your choice what goes on in another persons body. I cannot tell you what to do with yours. Just because a woman has a potential child in her doesn't give you the right to tell her what to do with hers.
I will be the first to agree with you that you are not expert.

A BABY born full term still can't live on its own out of the womb, it needs the care of a parent for food and shelter.

Babies who are killed during partial birth abortions are usually of age to survive just fine. If they are earlier than most, then they would require a ventilator, like many babies born normally today.

Please, for the sake of intellectual honesty, lets not call it a potential child.

If a mother is not responsible for the life inside of her, they WHY would I be tried for double homicide if I killer the mom?
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Better than having the kid grow up to be some drug dealing criminal welfare recipient.
So does that mean you should have been aborted?
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I will be the first to agree with you that you are not expert.

A BABY born full term still can't live on its own out of the womb, it needs the care of a parent for food and shelter.

Babies who are killed during partial birth abortions are usually of age to survive just fine. If they are earlier than most, then they would require a ventilator, like many babies born normally today.

Please, for the sake of intellectual honesty, lets not call it a potential child.

If a mother is not responsible for the life inside of her, they WHY would I be tried for double homicide if I killer the mom?
I guess I must be performing abortions everyday in the shower. About 3 million to be exact.
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