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Old June 15th, 2007, 08:16 PM   #1
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My friend is a farmer and own over a thousand acres of farmland. years ago his father dug drainage ditches to drain his fields of excess water. these ditches and drainage fields are bad ass to run the rigs through. these ditches are man made, and water flows through them. in some areas there are cattails, but we dont mess them up. since these are manmade, and are on private land we really tear up the mud, but rebuild them later in the year. Are we breaking the law??
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Old June 15th, 2007, 08:39 PM   #2
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it all depends.... is there vegetation that you are running over/ in the mud?
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nope.
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man made ponds and watershedds are not under the control of DNR unless you link them to a body of water or river, stream kinda thing. as long as you are not creating anything that would harm down stream fish your good to go.
and do your self a favor, if you are not the land owner get it in writing that you have permission to be there. some folks are real dicks when it comes to farms and tresspassing.
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man made ponds and watershedds are not under the control of DNR unless you link them to a body of water or river, stream kinda thing. as long as you are not creating anything that would harm down stream fish your good to go.
and do your self a favor, if you are not the land owner get it in writing that you have permission to be there. some folks are real dicks when it comes to farms and tresspassing.
Well, he said they dug the ditches to drain the excess water....drain it to where? I suspect this may meet the 'linking' clause you mentioned above. If someone wanted to , they could call the DEQ. They don't take kindly to running around in water filled ditches, regardless of where they came from.
I know at the Mounds, which was a gravel pit, has every wet/pond like area blocked off with the exception of the long hole area in the back. They, DEQ, claimed the linkage to the Flint River via 'subsurface' aquafers.
Same thing happened @ Silver Lake, Some of the wet areas were just sandy. After a while some cat tails started growing and bingo, it's now a Federally protected Wetland. Dip one tire in it and the DNR will impound your vehicle. I know I help a guy winch his truck up a hill because it was just inches from the water and the DNR was just sitting watching, waiting for him to touch the water. They told us point blank, you touch the water and your truck is ours!
Back to topic, Your required by law to have written permission, on your person, to be on someone elses land. It's in the RecreationalTresspass law I read years ago.
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the ditches run into a drainage field. never touches a stream. its mostly clay, with some black dirt. we keep anything from growing in it with our "soil rotation devices" we never worry about tresspassing, since almost everything around here is owned by family or long time friends. I cant even count the amount of times we have had to use a piece of our land to put a stinking little pile of cattails where the deq wanted so we could put in a oil well or make a road to the site. thanks for the feedback guys, i might even go get a bunch of signatures from people now just incase the water nazi's give me grief.
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i might even go get a bunch of signatures from people now just incase the water nazi's give me grief.

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