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Old June 10th, 2007, 09:43 PM   #1
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Default legal question: replace the frame, body, and motor, any problem with registration?

I'm thinking of buying a CJ7, and within a few years it would get a different body (fiberglass), frame (homebuilt, box steel), and motor (non-Jeep). Oh, and likely non-Jeep axles. This needs to stay street legal (MI), what kind of legal complications would be involved considering it's basically a homebuilt vehicle at that point? Certainly someone has done this before in MI?

I've read what I can find in the vehicle code (mostly here) and I'm not finding much.
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Old June 10th, 2007, 09:54 PM   #2
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Since theres no vehicle inspection in this state I wouldn't expect any problems. Keep the VIN tag and title and keep registering it as a CJ7. Saying anything about it pretty much not having any original parts while registering it would probably be a mistake.
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Old June 10th, 2007, 09:57 PM   #3
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no problem reg. it, just dont tell the sos what you have done.
the only prob. would be if you got pulled over and had a cop that new what he was doing poking aroung and not finding matching # (or any # on your custom frame)
but that dosnt happen very often
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anyone know the legality of transferring the VIN to the new frame? aka, cutting off that piece of the frame and welding it on the new one.
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anyone know the legality of transferring the VIN to the new frame? aka, cutting off that piece of the frame and welding it on the new one.
fed. offence, jail time, lots of money
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Old June 10th, 2007, 10:34 PM   #6
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Aw, but I just "replaced the damaged part of the frame", you know, 99% of it
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You are basically making a homemade buggy. You have to get the vehicle inspected and the state will issue you a vin number. They will actually place this on the vehicle frame. I have a buddy who has done this several times. I will get more info about it for you. But to be street legal you need lights, turnsignals, horn, brakes. Your exhaust has to be below a certain db. Contact the Secretary of State and they will give you all the legal info on this.


As for taking a vin and placing it on a different vehicle, that is a state felony not federal. The reason why it is state, is because the states issue the titles for the vehicles not the federal gov.
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You are basically making a homemade buggy. You have to get the vehicle inspected and the state will issue you a vin number. They will actually place this on the vehicle frame. I have a buddy who has done this several times. I will get more info about it for you. But to be street legal you need lights, turnsignals, horn, brakes. Your exhaust has to be below a certain db. Contact the Secretary of State and they will give you all the legal info on this.


As for taking a vin and placing it on a different vehicle, that is a state felony not federal. The reason why it is state, is because the states issue the titles for the vehicles not the federal gov.
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You are basically making a homemade buggy. You have to get the vehicle inspected and the state will issue you a vin number. They will actually place this on the vehicle frame. I have a buddy who has done this several times. I will get more info about it for you. But to be street legal you need lights, turnsignals, horn, brakes. Your exhaust has to be below a certain db. Contact the Secretary of State and they will give you all the legal info on this.


As for taking a vin and placing it on a different vehicle, that is a state felony not federal. The reason why it is state, is because the states issue the titles for the vehicles not the federal gov.

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(nev...%20AND%20title

Give me some more time and I will get you all the info you need.
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